{"id":629,"date":"2017-12-05T15:14:08","date_gmt":"2017-12-05T14:14:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/?p=629"},"modified":"2017-12-05T15:14:08","modified_gmt":"2017-12-05T14:14:08","slug":"migrations-economiste-anglais-demontre-limmigration-nest-chance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2017\/12\/05\/migrations-economiste-anglais-demontre-limmigration-nest-chance\/","title":{"rendered":"Migrations : un \u00e9conomiste anglais d\u00e9montre que l\u2019immigration n\u2019est pas une chance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>La sociologie, l\u2019anthropologie et l\u2019histoire ont apport\u00e9 d\u2019importantes avanc\u00e9es au d\u00e9bat sur l\u2019immigration. Elles permettent notamment d\u2019affirmer que l\u2019hostilit\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard de l\u2019immigration de masse ne peut \u00eatre r\u00e9duite \u00e0 une protestation contre les pertes d\u2019emplois, la baisse des salaires et les in\u00e9galit\u00e9s croissantes. (\u2026)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La th\u00e9orie \u00e9conomique nous dit que l\u2019immigration nette, comme le libre-\u00e9change, ne profite \u00e0 la population autochtone qu\u2019avec un certain retard. L\u2019argument ici est que si l\u2019on augmente la quantit\u00e9 de main-d\u2019oeuvre, son prix (les salaires) baisse. Cela permet d\u2019augmenter les b\u00e9n\u00e9fices. L\u2019augmentation des b\u00e9n\u00e9fices conduit \u00e0 davantage d\u2019investissements, qui vont augmenter la demande de main-d\u2019oeuvre, ce qui va renverser la premi\u00e8re tendance \u00e0 la baisse des salaires. L\u2019immigration permet ainsi \u00e0 une population plus nombreuse de jouir du m\u00eame niveau de vie que la population moins nombreuse dans la situation pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente, d\u2019o\u00f9 une nette am\u00e9lioration du bien-\u00eatre total.<\/p>\n<style>\n       .errordiv { padding:10px; margin:10px; border: 1px solid #555555;color: #000000;background-color: #f8f8f8; width:500px; }#advanced_iframe {visibility:visible;opacity:1;vertical-align:top;}.ai-info-bottom-iframe { position: fixed; z-index: 10000; bottom:0; left: 0; margin: 0px; text-align: center; width: 100%; background-color: #ff9999; padding-left: 5px;padding-bottom: 5px; border-top: 1px solid #aaa } a.ai-bold {font-weight: bold;}#ai-layer-div-advanced_iframe p {height:100%;margin:0;padding:0}<\/style><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var ai_iframe_width_advanced_iframe = 0;var ai_iframe_height_advanced_iframe = 0;var aiOnloadScrollTop=\"true\";var aiShowDebug=false;\n\t\tif (typeof aiReadyCallbacks === 'undefined') {\n\t\t\tvar aiReadyCallbacks = [];\n\t\t} else if (!(aiReadyCallbacks instanceof Array)) {\n\t\t\tvar aiReadyCallbacks = [];\n\t\t}    function aiShowIframeId(id_iframe) { jQuery(\"#\"+id_iframe).css(\"visibility\", \"visible\");    }    function aiResizeIframeHeight(height) { aiResizeIframeHeight(height,advanced_iframe); }    function aiResizeIframeHeightId(height,width,id) {aiResizeIframeHeightById(id,height);}<\/script>Http iframes are not shown in https pages in many major browsers. Please read <a href=\"\/\/www.advanced-iframe.com\/iframe-do-not-mix-http-and-https\" target=\"_blank\">this post<\/a> for details.<iframe id=\"advanced_iframe\"  name=\"advanced_iframe\"  src=\"http:\/\/www.fdesouche.com\/miniatures\/620x400\/916249.jpg\"  width=\"100%\"  height=\"500\"  frameborder=\"0\"  border=\"0\"  allowtransparency=\"true\"  loading=\"lazy\"  style=\";border-width: 0px;;border: none;;width:100%;;height:500px;\" ><\/iframe><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var ifrm_advanced_iframe = document.getElementById(\"advanced_iframe\");var hiddenTabsDoneadvanced_iframe = false;\nfunction resizeCallbackadvanced_iframe() {}<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"><\/script><p style=\"display:block !important; visibility:visible !important;margin: -18px 14px 0 0;padding-left: 3px;padding-top:3px;background: white; overflow: hidden; position: relative; line-height:15px;width: fit-content;\"><small style=\"display:block !important;visibility:visible !important\">powered by Advanced iFrame<\/small><\/p>\n<p>Une \u00e9tude r\u00e9cente de l\u2019\u00e9conomiste de l\u2019universit\u00e9 de Cambridge Robert Rowthorn a toutefois montr\u00e9 que cet argument comporte de nombreuses lacunes. Les pr\u00e9tendus effets temporaires en termes de travailleurs autochtones d\u00e9plac\u00e9s et de salaires plus bas peuvent durer cinq ou dix ans, alors que les effets b\u00e9n\u00e9fiques supposent une absence de r\u00e9cession. Et m\u00eame sans r\u00e9cession, s\u2019il y a un afflux de migrants, plut\u00f4t qu\u2019une augmentation exceptionnelle de la taille de la main-d\u2019oeuvre, la demande de main-d\u2019oeuvre peut constamment \u00eatre en retard sur la croissance de l\u2019offre. La \u00ab th\u00e8se selon laquelle les migrants occupent les emplois de travailleurs locaux et poussent leurs salaires vers le bas est peut-\u00eatre exag\u00e9r\u00e9e, dit Rowthorn, mais elle n\u2019est pas toujours fausse \u00bb.<br \/>\nUn deuxi\u00e8me argument \u00e9conomique est que l\u2019immigration va rajeunir la main-d\u2019oeuvre et va stabiliser les finances publiques, parce que les jeunes travailleurs import\u00e9s vont g\u00e9n\u00e9rer les imp\u00f4ts n\u00e9cessaires pour financer un nombre croissant de retrait\u00e9s. La population britannique devrait d\u00e9passer les 70 millions d\u2019habitants avant la fin de la prochaine d\u00e9cennie, soit une augmentation de 3,6 millions, ou 5,5 %, en raison de l\u2019immigration nette et de l\u2019exc\u00e9dent des naissances sur les d\u00e9c\u00e8s parmi les nouveaux venus.<\/p>\n<p>Rowthorn rejette cet argument. \u00ab Pour maintenir une fois pour toutes une r\u00e9duction du taux de d\u00e9pendance, il faut un flux incessant de migrants. Une fois que l\u2019afflux s\u2019arr\u00eate, la structure des \u00e2ges revient \u00e0 sa trajectoire d\u2019origine. \u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Ainsi, m\u00eame avec des r\u00e9sultats optimaux comme l\u2019\u00e9vitement de la r\u00e9cession, les arguments \u00e9conomiques en faveur de l\u2019immigration \u00e0 grande \u00e9chelle ne sont gu\u00e8re concluants. Ainsi le noeud de la question est vraiment son impact social.<\/p>\n<p><strong>David Goodhart, ancien r\u00e9dacteur en chef de la revue \u00ab Prospect \u00bb, a plaid\u00e9 en faveur de la restriction d\u2019un point de vue social-d\u00e9mocrate. Il tient pour acquis que la plupart des gens pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent vivre avec leurs semblables et que les d\u00e9cideurs doivent pr\u00eater attention \u00e0 cette pr\u00e9f\u00e9rence. Une attitude de laisser-faire quant \u00e0 la composition de la population d\u2019un pays est aussi intenable que l\u2019indiff\u00e9rence quant \u00e0 sa taille.  (\u2026)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Contr\u00f4les migratoires<\/strong><br \/>\nPour Goodhart, l\u2019origine de l\u2019hostilit\u00e9 des lib\u00e9raux \u00e0 propos des contr\u00f4les migratoires est leur conception individualiste de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9. \u00c0 d\u00e9faut de comprendre l\u2019attachement du peuple \u00e0 des communaut\u00e9s s\u00e9dentaires, ils taxent l\u2019hostilit\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard de l\u2019immigration de r\u00e9action irrationnelle ou raciste. (\u2026)<\/p>\n<p><strong>La force de la citoyennet\u00e9<\/strong><br \/>\nIl me semble que quiconque r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit \u00e0 ces questions est forc\u00e9 d\u2019accepter avec Goodhart que la citoyennet\u00e9, pour la plupart des gens, est une chose dans laquelle ils sont n\u00e9s. Si la composition d\u2019une communaut\u00e9 se modifie trop rapidement, cela arrache les gens \u00e0 leur propre histoire, en en faisant des d\u00e9racin\u00e9s. L\u2019anxi\u00e9t\u00e9 des lib\u00e9raux de ne pas passer pour des racistes leur cache ces v\u00e9rit\u00e9s. Une explosion de ce que l\u2019on appelle actuellement le populisme est une cons\u00e9quence in\u00e9vitable.(\u2026)<\/p>\n<p>www.lesechos.fr<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La sociologie, l\u2019anthropologie et l\u2019histoire ont apport\u00e9 d\u2019importantes avanc\u00e9es au d\u00e9bat sur l\u2019immigration. Elles permettent notamment d\u2019affirmer que l\u2019hostilit\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard de l\u2019immigration de masse ne peut \u00eatre r\u00e9duite \u00e0 une protestation contre les pertes d\u2019emplois, la baisse des salaires et les in\u00e9galit\u00e9s croissantes. 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