{"id":36570,"date":"2026-07-25T03:34:27","date_gmt":"2026-07-25T03:34:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/?p=36570"},"modified":"2026-07-25T03:34:29","modified_gmt":"2026-07-25T03:34:29","slug":"elon-musk-face-a-the-economist-ia-immigration-europe-les-moments-forts-dun-entretien-sans-filtre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2026\/07\/25\/elon-musk-face-a-the-economist-ia-immigration-europe-les-moments-forts-dun-entretien-sans-filtre\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8211; Elon Musk face \u00e0 The Economist : IA, immigration, Europe\u2026 les moments forts d\u2019un entretien sans filtre"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles : <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2026\/07\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juil. 2026 &#8211;<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2026\/06\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juin 2026 &#8211;<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2026\/05\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mai 2026<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2026\/04\/\">Avril 2026<\/a> &#8211;<br>Facebook&nbsp;:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a> Music 24\/24 : <a href=\"http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr\/\">http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!-- AFS Analytics V7- Web Analytics 7.0 -->\n<script type='text\/javascript'>\n(function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i['AfsAnalyticsObject']=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){(i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)})(window,document,'script','\/\/code.afsanalytics.com\/js2\/analytics.js','aa');\naa('create', '00734570','auto');\naa('set', 'autotrack', 'on');\naa('set', 'autotrack.iframe', 'dataset');\naa('send', 'pageview');\n<\/script>\n<!-- End AFS Analytics -->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/weboomedia.free.fr\/ORTF\/php\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.breizh-info.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/musk-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>#webtube<\/strong> : <em>Quatre-vingt-dix minutes face \u00e0 Zanny Minton Beddoes, r\u00e9dactrice en chef de The Economist, film\u00e9es lundi 21 juillet dans le hall de la Gigafactory Tesla au Texas. L\u2019entretien, mis en ligne le 23 juillet, constitue la premi\u00e8re grande interview d\u2019Elon Musk depuis l\u2019entr\u00e9e en bourse spectaculaire de SpaceX. Intelligence artificielle, course technologique avec la Chine, r\u00f4le politique, rapport \u00e0 l\u2019Europe : tour d\u2019horizon d\u2019un \u00e9change souvent tendu, parfois explosif.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Elon Musk on Europe, the far right and civil war in Britain | The Economist\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/QTGCSYn0piw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">L\u2019IA, horizon \u00e0 cinq ans<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Musk n\u2019a pas vari\u00e9 d\u2019un pouce sur sa ligne : l\u2019intelligence artificielle d\u00e9passera la somme de l\u2019intelligence humaine d\u2019ici environ cinq ans. Dans dix ans, selon lui, aucune t\u00e2che ne r\u00e9sistera aux machines, du d\u00e9veloppail logiciel au travail physique via les robots humano\u00efdes. Le travail deviendra \u00ab optionnel \u00bb, comme le jardinage : on pourra s\u2019y adonner par plaisir, pas par n\u00e9cessit\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le patron de Tesla et SpaceX en tire une conclusion vertigineuse : l\u2019argent lui-m\u00eame perdra sa pertinence. Face \u00e0 une journaliste visiblement sceptique \u2014 \u00ab les gens qui ach\u00e8tent vos actions ne pensent pas que l\u2019argent n\u2019aura plus d\u2019importance en 2036 \u00bb \u2014 Musk a d\u00e9roul\u00e9 un raisonnement macro\u00e9conomique simple : si la production de biens et services explose gr\u00e2ce aux robots et \u00e0 l\u2019IA, la masse mon\u00e9taire pourra cro\u00eetre sans inflation. Il pr\u00e9dit m\u00eame de la d\u00e9flation. Quant aux emplois d\u00e9truits, le Tr\u00e9sor am\u00e9ricain devra tout simplement \u00ab envoyer des ch\u00e8ques aux gens \u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour illustrer ce que sera la coexistence entre humains et superintelligence, Musk a renvoy\u00e9 aux romans de science-fiction d\u2019Iain Banks, la s\u00e9rie&nbsp;<em>Culture<\/em>&nbsp;\u2014 un univers post-p\u00e9nurie gouvern\u00e9 par des IA bienveillantes. \u00ab L\u2019\u00e9cart d\u2019intelligence entre l\u2019IA et l\u2019homme sera bien plus grand que celui entre l\u2019homme et le chimpanz\u00e9. Il est difficile d\u2019imaginer que les chimpanz\u00e9s soient aux commandes \u00bb, a-t-il l\u00e2ch\u00e9 avec un sourire d\u2019excuses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Anthropic en t\u00eate, la Chine aux portes<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fait notable : Musk a explicitement reconnu la supr\u00e9matie d\u2019Anthropic dans la course \u00e0 l\u2019IA, confirmant en direct ce qu\u2019il avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9crit sur X d\u00e9but juillet. Fable reste selon lui \u00ab clairement le mod\u00e8le le plus intelligent \u00bb. Le mod\u00e8le chinois Kimi K3, sorti la semaine pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente, s\u2019en rapproche, mais Anthropic dispose d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u2019une version bien plus avanc\u00e9e, pr\u00eate \u00e0 sortir \u00e0 tout moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sur la Chine, le constat est sans complaisance : P\u00e9kin produit d\u00e9j\u00e0 plus d\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 que les \u00c9tats-Unis, l\u2019Europe et l\u2019Inde r\u00e9unis, et pourrait atteindre quatre fois la capacit\u00e9 am\u00e9ricaine. Les entreprises chinoises d\u2019IA font des prouesses avec peu de puces, et la Chine est \u00ab plus proche qu\u2019on ne le pense \u00bb de r\u00e9soudre le probl\u00e8me de la lithographie avanc\u00e9e. Musk estime qu\u2019il est \u00ab probable \u00bb que la Chine prenne la t\u00eate de la course \u00e0 l\u2019IA \u00e0 un moment donn\u00e9 \u2014 et qu\u2019interdire les mod\u00e8les chinois aux entreprises am\u00e9ricaines n\u2019y changera rien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Un syst\u00e8me d\u2019alerte entre concurrents<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sur la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l\u2019IA, Musk a formul\u00e9 une proposition concr\u00e8te : les grandes entreprises du secteur devraient se r\u00e9unir chaque semaine ou toutes les deux semaines et s\u2019accorder un d\u00e9lai d\u2019une \u00e0 deux semaines pour tester mutuellement tout nouveau mod\u00e8le de fronti\u00e8re avant sa mise sur le march\u00e9. Les concurrents, estime-t-il, sont les mieux plac\u00e9s pour rep\u00e9rer les failles \u2014 et les plus motiv\u00e9s pour le faire. Le gouvernement n\u2019interviendrait qu\u2019en dernier recours, si une entreprise refuse de corriger un risque identifi\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Interrog\u00e9 sur la faisabilit\u00e9 d\u2019une telle coop\u00e9ration entre dirigeants qui \u00ab ne s\u2019aiment pas beaucoup \u00bb, Musk a balay\u00e9 l\u2019objection. Il a distingu\u00e9 Dario Amodei, le patron d\u2019Anthropic, qu\u2019il d\u00e9crit comme \u00ab une personne de principes \u00bb dont les \u00e9quipes n\u2019ont \u00ab d\u00e9clench\u00e9 aucun d\u00e9tecteur de malfaisance \u00bb. Quant \u00e0 Sam Altman, Musk n\u2019a pas m\u00e2ch\u00e9 ses mots : l\u2019homme a transform\u00e9 un projet \u00e0 but non lucratif et open source en entreprise ferm\u00e9e valoris\u00e9e 800 milliards de dollars \u2014 \u00ab l\u2019exact oppos\u00e9 \u00bb de ce pour quoi Musk avait donn\u00e9 de l\u2019argent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">DOGE : \u00ab Je me suis un peu trop impliqu\u00e9 \u00bb<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Moment rare de l\u2019entretien : Musk a reconnu s\u2019\u00eatre \u00ab un peu laiss\u00e9 emporter \u00bb par son engagement politique via DOGE. Mais l\u2019autocritique s\u2019est arr\u00eat\u00e9e l\u00e0. Sur le fond, il n\u2019a rien conc\u00e9d\u00e9. Les coupes budg\u00e9taires, notamment dans l\u2019aide \u00e9trang\u00e8re, n\u2019auraient caus\u00e9 \u00ab z\u00e9ro mort \u00bb \u2014 un point sur lequel il a \u00e9t\u00e9 cat\u00e9gorique, r\u00e9p\u00e9tant le mot \u00ab z\u00e9ro \u00bb \u00e0 plusieurs reprises face \u00e0 une Beddoes visiblement incr\u00e9dule. Les fondations priv\u00e9es comme celle de Bill Gates ou de Mackenzie Scott, a-t-il argument\u00e9, disposent de dizaines de milliards et auraient pu compenser instantan\u00e9ment. Quant aux organisations qui ont protest\u00e9, Musk les soup\u00e7onne d\u2019avoir fabriqu\u00e9 des \u00ab histoires tristes \u00bb pour maintenir des financements frauduleux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il a toutefois jug\u00e9 l\u2019administration Trump \u00ab excellente dans l\u2019ensemble \u00bb, tout en pr\u00e9cisant qu\u2019il ne serait \u00ab pas d\u2019accord avec tout ce que fait n\u2019importe quelle administration \u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">L\u2019Europe, terrain d\u2019affrontement le plus vif<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C\u2019est sur l\u2019Europe que l\u2019\u00e9change a vir\u00e9 au bras de fer. Beddoes a reproch\u00e9 \u00e0 Musk de diffuser une image d\u00e9form\u00e9e du Royaume-Uni et du continent, citant sa pr\u00e9diction d\u2019une \u00ab guerre civile in\u00e9vitable \u00bb en Grande-Bretagne et sa promotion du film&nbsp;<em>Citizen Vigilante<\/em>&nbsp;\u2014 un thriller d\u2019action interdit en Allemagne mettant en sc\u00e8ne un justicier am\u00e9ricain qui traque les criminels immigr\u00e9s en Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Musk n\u2019a pas recul\u00e9 d\u2019un centim\u00e8tre. \u00ab Vous vivez dans une bulle \u00bb, a-t-il r\u00e9pondu, proposant une tourn\u00e9e du Royaume-Uni pour montrer ce que les m\u00e9dias traditionnels refuseraient de voir. Face \u00e0 l\u2019argument statistique \u2014 Londres est plus s\u00fbre que n\u2019importe quelle grande ville am\u00e9ricaine \u2014, il a maintenu que l\u2019Europe fait face \u00e0 un \u00ab probl\u00e8me grave et croissant \u00bb. Sa th\u00e8se tient en une phrase : si un groupe de population en expansion rapide porte des convictions \u00ab antith\u00e9tiques aux valeurs occidentales \u00bb, le conflit est math\u00e9matiquement in\u00e9vitable. \u00ab Un enfant peut le voir. \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019entrepreneur a refus\u00e9 l\u2019\u00e9tiquette d\u2019extr\u00eame droite avec v\u00e9h\u00e9mence, qualifiant cette caract\u00e9risation de \u00ab fausset\u00e9 scandaleuse \u00bb et d\u2019\u00ab insulte \u00e0 l\u2019histoire \u00bb. Ses positions, a-t-il insist\u00e9, se r\u00e9sument \u00e0 trois principes : fronti\u00e8res s\u00fbres, villes s\u00fbres, d\u00e9penses publiques raisonnables. \u00ab Lesquels de ces trois points sont d\u2019extr\u00eame droite ? \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sur la libert\u00e9 d\u2019expression, il a retourn\u00e9 l\u2019accusation&nbsp;<em>: \u00ab Pourquoi ne faites-vous pas davantage pour combattre la censure en Europe ? On met des gens en prison au Royaume-Uni pour des publications sur les r\u00e9seaux sociaux. \u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;\u00c0 quoi Beddoes a r\u00e9torqu\u00e9 que soutenir des partis comportant de vrais n\u00e9o-nazis dans leurs rangs, comme certains \u00e9l\u00e9ments de l\u2019AfD, est une autre forme d\u2019irresponsabilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les deux interlocuteurs ont fini par convenir qu\u2019ils \u00e9taient en d\u00e9saccord fondamental \u2014 et que l\u2019histoire trancherait.&nbsp;<em>\u00ab Mon taux de r\u00e9ussite en mati\u00e8re de pr\u00e9dictions est tr\u00e8s \u00e9lev\u00e9 pour un humain \u00bb<\/em>, a pr\u00e9venu Musk, revendiquant un \u00ab effet Cassandre \u00bb : les gens ne le croient pas, mais ses pr\u00e9visions finissent par se r\u00e9aliser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Starlink et l\u2019Ukraine<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sur l\u2019Ukraine, Musk a confirm\u00e9 avoir collabor\u00e9 avec Kiev pour cr\u00e9er une liste blanche de terminaux Starlink autoris\u00e9s, afin d\u2019emp\u00eacher les Russes d\u2019utiliser des unit\u00e9s d\u00e9tourn\u00e9es dans les territoires occup\u00e9s. Mais il a r\u00e9it\u00e9r\u00e9 son appel \u00e0 un accord de paix pragmatique : la fronti\u00e8re n\u2019a quasiment pas boug\u00e9 depuis deux ou trois ans, des hommes meurent chaque jour des deux c\u00f4t\u00e9s, et l\u2019Ukraine ne reconquerra pas les territoires perdus. \u00ab Je suis assez choqu\u00e9 par ces diplomates \u00e9l\u00e9gants qui d\u00eenent sept plats dans des endroits luxueux pendant que des gens meurent au front. \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La conclusion de l\u2019entretien a r\u00e9sum\u00e9 le paradoxe Musk. D\u2019un c\u00f4t\u00e9, un visionnaire qui d\u00e9crit un monde radicalement transform\u00e9 par l\u2019IA et les robots dans la prochaine d\u00e9cennie. De l\u2019autre, un acteur politique revendiqu\u00e9 qui alimente les fractures les plus br\u00fblantes de l\u2019Occident contemporain \u2014 et assume chaque mot.&nbsp;<em>\u00ab Certains me d\u00e9testent. Je m\u2019en fiche. Un quart de milliard de personnes me suivent. Je pense que beaucoup plus de gens me soutiennent que l\u2019inverse. Et je pense qu\u2019ils vous d\u00e9testent, vous et les m\u00e9dias, bien plus que vous ne le r\u00e9alisez. \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Beddoes a eu le dernier mot, ou presque : \u00ab Je ne suis pas d\u2019accord avec tout ce que vous dites, mais c\u2019est toujours absolument fascinant de vous parler. \u00bb R\u00e9ponse de Musk : \u00ab Je ne suis pas ennuyeux. \u00bb. Personne ne le contredira.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/breizh-info.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">breizh-info.com<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles : Juil. 2026 &#8211; Juin 2026 &#8211; Mai 2026 &#8211; Avril 2026 &#8211;Facebook&nbsp;:&nbsp;https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews Music 24\/24 : http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr #webtube : Quatre-vingt-dix minutes face \u00e0 Zanny Minton Beddoes, r\u00e9dactrice en chef de The Economist, film\u00e9es lundi 21 juillet dans le hall de la Gigafactory Tesla au Texas. 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