{"id":30406,"date":"2025-11-21T05:01:24","date_gmt":"2025-11-21T05:01:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/?p=30406"},"modified":"2025-11-21T05:01:25","modified_gmt":"2025-11-21T05:01:25","slug":"ukraine-ce-plan-de-paix-en-28-points-est-une-farce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/11\/21\/ukraine-ce-plan-de-paix-en-28-points-est-une-farce\/","title":{"rendered":". Ukraine : ce plan de paix en 28 points est une farce"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles : <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/11\/\">Nov. 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Aout 2025<\/a> &#8211;<br>Facebook&nbsp;:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a> Music 24\/24 : <a href=\"http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/r2.ripostelaique.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/Le-president-russe-Vladimir-Pout.webp\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>#webtube<\/strong> : <em>On parle beaucoup de ce plan de paix qui serait en gestation avanc\u00e9e. Mais apr\u00e8s le fiasco d\u2019Anchorage et le loup\u00e9 de Budapest, ce ne sont pas des \u00e9quipes de n\u00e9gociateurs aussi peu cr\u00e9dibles qui vont d\u00e9cider de l\u2019issue de cette guerre et figer la ligne de front comme on fait un arr\u00eat sur image. D\u2019ailleurs, ni Moscou ni Washington n\u2019ont confirm\u00e9 ce plan.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/information.tv5monde.com\/international\/guerre-en-ukraine-que-contient-vraiment-le-plan-de-paix-americain-en-28-points-soumis-kiev-2798639\">https:\/\/information.tv5monde.com\/international\/guerre-en-ukraine-que-contient-vraiment-le-plan-de-paix-americain-en-28-points-soumis-kiev-2798639<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quant aux Ukrainiens et aux Europ\u00e9ens, ils n\u2019ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 associ\u00e9s aux n\u00e9gociations. Si Bruxelles, Macron, Merz et Starmer n\u2019ont pas encore compris qu\u2019ils ne jouent pas dans la cour des grands, c\u2019est \u00e0 d\u00e9sesp\u00e9rer. Trump ne respecte que la force. Pour lui, non seulement l\u2019Ukraine est vaincue, mais l\u2019Europe reste un nain politique et militaire qui ne fait que de la figuration. Juste bon \u00e0 acheter des armes am\u00e9ricaines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ce plan, \u00e9labor\u00e9 par Witcoff c\u00f4t\u00e9 am\u00e9ricain, se d\u00e9cline en 28 points eux-m\u00eames class\u00e9s dans quatre cat\u00e9gories : la paix en Ukraine, les garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 en Europe et les futures relations am\u00e9ricaines avec la Russie et l\u2019Ukraine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mais c\u2019est la question territoriale qui reste le point majeur.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le plan pr\u00e9voit que les oblasts de Lougansk et de Donetsk passeraient en totalit\u00e9 sous contr\u00f4le russe. Mais les oblasts de Kherson et de Zaporijjia seraient gel\u00e9s selon la ligne de front, Moscou abandonnant une partie du territoire. Or, ces 4 oblasts ont \u00e9t\u00e9 int\u00e9gr\u00e9s \u00e0 la Constitution russe en 2023, apr\u00e8s un r\u00e9f\u00e9rendum sur leur rattachement \u00e0 Moscou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>C\u2019est donc oublier l\u2019essentiel. Witcoff a vraiment la t\u00eate dure.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Le Tsar a maintes fois pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 qu\u2019il n\u2019y aura pas de r\u00e9vision des r\u00e9sultats du r\u00e9f\u00e9rendum sur la r\u00e9unification \u2013 \u00ab&nbsp;la question est d\u00e9finitivement close et ne sera plus discut\u00e9e&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Donc, la Crim\u00e9e et les quatre oblasts annex\u00e9s resteront russes.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ces quatre zones seraient d\u00e9militaris\u00e9es. Voil\u00e0 une option qui devrait grandement s\u00e9duire le Kremlin. C\u2019est le Tsar qui exige la d\u00e9militarisation de l\u2019Ukraine, mais c\u2019est une partie du territoire russe qui serait interdite de troupes russes ! Original !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ensuite, Kiev devrait r\u00e9duire son arm\u00e9e \u00e0&nbsp;<em>\u201c400 000 soldats\u201d&nbsp;<\/em>et devrait \u00e9galement renoncer \u00e0 toutes ses armes \u00e0 longue port\u00e9e.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Rappelons que le Tsar veut la d\u00e9militarisation de l\u2019Ukraine<\/strong>, conc\u00e9dant seulement une force de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 int\u00e9rieure, mais certainement pas une arm\u00e9e de 400 000 soldats, soit le double des arm\u00e9es fran\u00e7aise ou britannique. Tout cela n\u2019est pas s\u00e9rieux. C\u2019est la porte ouverte \u00e0 une nouvelle guerre dans quelques ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Suivent plusieurs propositions, dont beaucoup restent encore floues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 L\u2019Ukraine n\u2019int\u00e9grera pas l\u2019Otan<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Aucune troupe \u00e9trang\u00e8re ne pourra stationner en Ukraine<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Kiev ne pourra acqu\u00e9rir aucune arme longue port\u00e9e, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>R\u00e9actions :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour Zelensky, pas question de c\u00e9der \u00e0 jamais 20 % du territoire ukrainien ;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour Bruxelles aucun plan de paix ne peut se discuter sans l\u2019Europe et l\u2019Ukraine ;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour Jean-No\u00ebl Barrot,&nbsp;<strong>\u00ab&nbsp;<em>La paix ne peut pas \u00eatre la capitulation&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notre ministre des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res oublie tout simplement que c\u2019est la Russie qui gagne cette guerre et que Zelensky n\u2019a aucune carte en mains. On ne n\u00e9gocie jamais aux conditions du vaincu. C\u2019est Poutine qui d\u00e9cide et pas l\u2019\u00c9lys\u00e9e, ni Bruxelles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il est clair que les Occidentaux ne comprennent pas que Poutine ne se contentera pas de demi-mesures. Il exigera des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 pour toute l\u2019Europe. Ces garanties r\u00e9clam\u00e9es \u00e0 maintes reprises mais ignor\u00e9es par Washington.&nbsp;<strong>Elle auraient pourtant \u00e9vit\u00e9 la guerre !<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019Ukraine sera non seulement d\u00e9militaris\u00e9e mais devra changer de r\u00e9gime, celui-ci \u00e9tant corrompu \u00e0 tous les \u00e9tages, sans parler de sa v\u00e9n\u00e9ration sans fin pour Stepan Bandera, le bourreau nazi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Enfin, les troupes russes ne cessant de progresser, au grand dam de Macron qui pr\u00e9tend qu\u2019elles pi\u00e9tinent, nul ne sait quels territoires Kiev devra encore c\u00e9der.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Car la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de la Crim\u00e9e passe par le contr\u00f4le de la mer Noire, donc de la r\u00e9gion d<strong>\u2018Odessa<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il n\u2019y aura pas d\u2019accord de paix au rabais. Il n\u2019y aura qu\u2019un accord de paix garantissant la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de toute l\u2019Europe.&nbsp;<strong>Exigence qui passe par le d\u00e9mant\u00e8lement du r\u00e9gime de Kiev et de son arm\u00e9e.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oui, la facture risque d\u2019\u00eatre sal\u00e9e pour l\u2019Ukraine et l\u2019Otan. Mais tout cela, il fallait y penser avant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plus de deux millions de morts et bless\u00e9s, des millions de veuves et d\u2019orphelins, une h\u00e9catombe parce que les Ukrainiens ont cru aux promesses de victoire de l\u2019Otan, alors que la Russie est invincible pour de multiples raisons, \u00e0 commencer par le mental de son leader et de son peuple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ce qui fait cruellement d\u00e9faut aux Occidentaux, et notamment aux Europ\u00e9ens, ce sont la sagesse et le bon sens qu\u2019on attend des leaders politiques cens\u00e9s nous prot\u00e9ger. Ce sont malheureusement des t\u00eates br\u00fbl\u00e9es, totalement inconscientes des r\u00e9alit\u00e9s. Il n\u2019\u00e9tait pourtant pas bien difficile de comprendre d\u00e8s le premier jour que cette guerre \u00e9tait ingagnable par Kiev et qu\u2019un engagement de l\u2019Otan contre la premi\u00e8re puissance nucl\u00e9aire mondiale conduirait \u00e0 l\u2019Apocalypse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais Zelensky a pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9 \u00e9couter Boris Johnson. Ensuite, la pluie ininterrompue des milliards de dollars a fait perdre la raison \u00e0 beaucoup d\u2019Ukrainiens et d\u2019Occidentaux, voyant la guerre comme un jackpot unique dans l\u2019histoire.&nbsp;<strong>La guerre s\u2019\u00e9ternise parce que beaucoup la font durer pour s\u2019enrichir.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chez RL, ce que nous \u00e9crivons aujourd\u2019hui, donc au 1365e jour de la guerre, nous l\u2019avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9crit le 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022. Nous n\u2019avons jamais chang\u00e9 de discours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019heure de la facture approche. Mais ce ne sont pas les responsables de cette effroyable h\u00e9catombe qui vont payer le prix le plus lourd. Ce sont les soldats des deux camps et leurs familles, sacrifi\u00e9s sur l\u2019autel des int\u00e9r\u00eats am\u00e9ricains, ou ceux de leurs complices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nulle guerre n\u2019aura \u00e9t\u00e9 plus injuste car il aurait suffi d\u2019\u00e9couter Poutine pour \u00e9viter ce massacre inutile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cela aussi nous l\u2019avons dit d\u00e8s 2022 : \u00e9couter Poutine\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jacques Guillemain<\/strong>, Riposte La\u00efque<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles : Nov. 2025 &#8211; Oct. 2025 &#8211; Sept 2025 &#8211; Aout 2025 &#8211;Facebook&nbsp;:&nbsp;https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews Music 24\/24 : http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr #webtube : On parle beaucoup de ce plan de paix qui serait en gestation avanc\u00e9e. 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