{"id":28590,"date":"2025-05-15T06:31:59","date_gmt":"2025-05-15T04:31:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=28590"},"modified":"2025-05-15T06:31:59","modified_gmt":"2025-05-15T04:31:59","slug":"que-leurope-le-veuille-ou-non-zelensky-devra-ceder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/05\/15\/que-leurope-le-veuille-ou-non-zelensky-devra-ceder\/","title":{"rendered":". Que l\u2019Europe le veuille ou non, Zelensky devra c\u00e9der"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Articles :<br><a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/05\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mai2025<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/04\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Avril 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/03\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mar 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/02\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fev 2025<\/a><br>Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a> Music 24\/24 : <a href=\"http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/r2.ripostelaique.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Capture-decran-141.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00b0\u00b0 WEBTUBE<\/strong> : <em><strong>Fiasco total pour l\u2019ultimatum lanc\u00e9 \u00e0 Poutine par les Europ\u00e9ens.<\/strong> Les Russes veulent reprendre les n\u00e9gociations d\u2019Istanbul de 2022. La bande des quatre Pieds nickel\u00e9s, Macron, Starmer, Merz, Tusk, a lanc\u00e9 depuis Kiev un ultimatum exigeant de Poutine un cessez-le-feu imm\u00e9diat sans conditions pr\u00e9alables. A prendre ou \u00e0 laisser. Le Tsar a donc laiss\u00e9 et fait une contre-proposition.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et c\u2019est finalement Zelensky qui, sous la pression de Trump, se dit pr\u00eat \u00e0 rencontrer Poutine \u00e0 Istanbul,&nbsp;<strong>sans conditions pr\u00e9alables.<\/strong>&nbsp;Il n\u2019est donc plus question de cessez-le-feu imm\u00e9diat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On se souvient qu\u2019en avril 2022, Zelensky \u00e9tait pr\u00eat \u00e0 n\u00e9gocier pour \u00e9viter une guerre ingagnable face \u00e0 l\u2019Ours russe. Mais sous la pression occidentale, notamment de Boris Johnson lui promettant le soutien total de l\u2019Otan et la victoire finale, Zelensky avait rejet\u00e9 ces accords n\u00e9goci\u00e9s \u00e0 Istanbul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Trois ans plus tard, le carnage se solde par plus de 800 000 morts c\u00f4t\u00e9 ukrainien et autant de bless\u00e9s<\/strong>. 400 milliards de dollars ont \u00e9t\u00e9 engloutis dans la guerre en pure perte, puisque les l\u00e9gions de Poutine occupent toujours 20% du territoire ukrainien, tandis que les 16 trains de sanctions n\u2019ont eu aucun effet, si ce n\u2019est de se retourner contre l\u2019UE, tomb\u00e9e en r\u00e9cession avec la crise \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dirig\u00e9e par des cr\u00e9tins&nbsp; imperm\u00e9ables au bon sens, l\u2019Europe a cru pouvoir se lancer en toute impunit\u00e9 dans une guerre qui n\u2019\u00e9tait pas la sienne, et surtout pas celle de la France.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Que pr\u00e9voyaient ces accords d\u2019Istanbul de 2022 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/reseauinternational.net\/cest-toujours-istanbul-mais-les-conditions-ont-change-trump-a-intime-a-zelensky-daccepter-toutes-les-demandes-de-la-russie\">https:\/\/reseauinternational.net\/cest-toujours-istanbul-mais-les-conditions-ont-change-trump-a-intime-a-zelensky-daccepter-toutes-les-demandes-de-la-russie<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 La neutralit\u00e9 de l\u2019Ukraine, ne pouvant adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 l\u2019Otan ou \u00e0 toute autre alliance militaire,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 la reconnaissance de la Crim\u00e9e russe,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 la d\u00e9militarisation de l\u2019Ukraine, avec une arm\u00e9e limit\u00e9e \u00e0 85 000 hommes,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 la lev\u00e9e des sanctions contre Moscou,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 la fin des lois discriminatoires en Ukraine (reconnaissance de la langue russe),<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 un droit de v\u00e9to russe sur les actions des Etats garants de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l\u2019Ukraine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>C\u2019est donc sur cette base que Russes et&nbsp; Am\u00e9ricains souhaitent n\u00e9gocier<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00ab<em>Ce furent des n\u00e9gociations tr\u00e8s convaincantes et substantielles. Nous [en 2022] \u00e9tions tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s proches de la signature d\u2019un accord, et nous utiliserons ce cadre comme r\u00e9f\u00e9rence pour la conclusion d\u2019un accord de paix entre l\u2019Ukraine et la Russie<\/em>\u00bb, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 Whitcoff. En fait, c\u2019est exactement ce que dit aujourd\u2019hui l\u2019assistant du pr\u00e9sident russe, Ushakov.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mais le nouveau plan am\u00e9ricain se diff\u00e9rencie du projet de 2022<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00ab&nbsp;Premi\u00e8rement : des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 fiables pour l\u2019Ukraine de la part des pays europ\u00e9ens et d\u2019autres pays.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Deuxi\u00e8mement : non seulement la reconnaissance totale de la Crim\u00e9e comme partie int\u00e9grante de la Russie, mais aussi le \u00ab<em>contr\u00f4le effectif<\/em>\u00bb des anciennes r\u00e9gions ukrainiennes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Troisi\u00e8mement : les effectifs des forces arm\u00e9es ukrainiennes peuvent \u00eatre illimit\u00e9s (ce qui est totalement contraire aux exigences de la Russie).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quatri\u00e8mement : l\u2019autorisation de d\u00e9ployer des militaires occidentaux sur le territoire ukrainien (ce point n\u2019\u00e9tait pas inscrit dans l\u2019accord de 2022).&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En outre, dans la version actuelle de l\u2019accord de paix, les \u00c9tats-Unis proposaient de geler le conflit dans la zone de d\u00e9militarisation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Il est donc clair que la paix n\u2019est pas pour demain \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 que certains points essentiels ne sont pas encore n\u00e9goci\u00e9s.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid des&nbsp; quatre oblasts de Donetsk, Lougansk, Zaporijjia et Kherson, qui ne sont pas encore pass\u00e9s en totalit\u00e9 sous contr\u00f4le russe ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid des accords de d\u00e9fense bilat\u00e9raux sign\u00e9s entre Kiev et certains pays europ\u00e9ens ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid du r\u00e9gime en place \u00e0 Kiev, nazifi\u00e9 et 100% antirusse ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid de la centrale nucl\u00e9aire de Zaporijjia que souhaitent contr\u00f4ler les Am\u00e9ricains ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid des troupes Otan d\u00e9ploy\u00e9es en Ukraine, option rejet\u00e9e par Moscou ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid de la d\u00e9militarisation de l\u2019Ukraine, totalement zapp\u00e9e par l\u2019Occident ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Quid des 220 milliards d\u2019avoirs russes, vol\u00e9s par les Europ\u00e9ens ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>On le voit, il faut \u00eatre bien na\u00eff pour vouloir imposer un cessez-le-feu sans conditions au Tsar, avant de r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 ces questions vitales pour la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de la Russie.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et ceux qui pr\u00e9tendent imposer des droits de douane de 500% sur le p\u00e9trole russe ou sur les pays qui ach\u00e8tent ce p\u00e9trole, seraient bien avis\u00e9s de ne pas acculer l\u2019Ours russe. Ces illumin\u00e9s jouent avec le feu en croyant<em>&nbsp;\u00ab&nbsp;prendre la Russie \u00e0 la gorge&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ouest-france.fr\/europe\/russie\/guerre-en-ukraine-paris-evoque-des-sanctions-devastatrices-pour-prendre-la-russie-a-la-gorge-abcd500c-30a3-11f0-a780-38f15a8a5638\">https:\/\/www.ouest-france.fr\/europe\/russie\/guerre-en-ukraine-paris-evoque-des-sanctions-devastatrices-pour-prendre-la-russie-a-la-gorge-abcd500c-30a3-11f0-a780-38f15a8a5638<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oui, ce sont bien de sombres cr\u00e9tins aussi immatures qu\u2019inconscients qui dirigent l\u2019Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Totalement d\u00e9pass\u00e9s, ruin\u00e9s, sans arm\u00e9e et sans mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res, ils ont la pr\u00e9tention de peser sur les n\u00e9gociations d\u2019un conflit majeur.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dans le train qui les menait \u00e0 Kiev depuis la Pologne, ce sont quatre guignols \u00e0 moiti\u00e9 shoot\u00e9s que nous ont montr\u00e9s les vid\u00e9os. Pas vraiment des interlocuteurs dignes et respectables pour traiter d\u2019un sujet aussi grave que la guerre, face \u00e0 la premi\u00e8re puissance nucl\u00e9aire mondiale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019Elys\u00e9e d\u00e9ment toute pr\u00e9sence de coca\u00efne dans le wagon,&nbsp; mais le nombre de vid\u00e9os compromettantes s\u2019accumule. Chacun sait que dans la sph\u00e8re politique, c\u2019est souvent la drogue qui permet au \u00e9lus de tenir un rythme de vie infernal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Emmanuel Macron en train de prendre de la coca\u00efne ? 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