{"id":28542,"date":"2025-05-05T08:05:19","date_gmt":"2025-05-05T06:05:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=28542"},"modified":"2025-05-05T08:05:19","modified_gmt":"2025-05-05T06:05:19","slug":"lafd-sous-surveillance-et-demain-interdit-vance-et-rubio-montent-au-creneau","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2025\/05\/05\/lafd-sous-surveillance-et-demain-interdit-vance-et-rubio-montent-au-creneau\/","title":{"rendered":". L\u2019AfD sous surveillance, et demain interdit ? Vance et Rubio montent au cr\u00e9neau"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Articles :<br><a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/05\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mai2025<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/04\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Avril 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/03\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mar 2025<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2025\/02\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fev 2025<\/a><br>Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a> Music 24\/24 : <a href=\"http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.bvoltaire.fr\/file\/Bvoltaire\/2025\/02\/IL20250217153615-vance-munich-scaled-929x522.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00b0\u00b0 WEBTUBE<\/strong> : <em>In\u00e9ligibilit\u00e9 contre Marine Le Pen, mise sous surveillance de l&rsquo;AfD : deux grands partis mis hors du jeu d\u00e9mocratique ?  Dans\u00a0Le Monde, ce week-end, on d\u00e9bat tranquillement entre universitaires pour savoir si Trump est fasciste ou simplement illib\u00e9ral, ce qui, dans la pens\u00e9e progressiste et\u00a0woke, n&rsquo;en est que la forme \u00e9dulcor\u00e9e. Mais est-ce aux \u00c9tats-Unis de Trump que le leader du principal parti d&rsquo;opposition est rendu in\u00e9ligible par la Justice ? Qu&rsquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bvoltaire.fr\/allemagne-lafd-bientot-sous-surveillance-des-services-de-renseignement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">un parti est d\u00e9clar\u00e9\u00a0\u00ab extr\u00e9miste \u00bb<\/a>\u00a0et donc pourra \u00eatre surveill\u00e9 par les services de renseignement et, pourquoi pas, interdit ? Non, tous ces coups de canif dans le jeu d\u00e9mocratique ont lieu en Europe, en France et en Allemagne, ces deux grandes d\u00e9mocraties d&rsquo;Europe occidentale qui ont visiblement un probl\u00e8me avec la possibilit\u00e9 d&rsquo;une alternance au b\u00e9n\u00e9fice de mouvements populistes de droite anti-immigration, RN en France, AfD (Alternative f\u00fcr Deutschland) de l&rsquo;autre c\u00f4t\u00e9 du Rhin.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">L&rsquo;AfD \u00e9troitement surveill\u00e9e<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La nouvelle est tomb\u00e9e ce vendredi 2 mai comme un couperet : apr\u00e8s trois ans d\u2019enqu\u00eate, l\u2019office de protection de la Constitution allemand estime que le parti nationaliste a&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;des aspirations contre l\u2019ordre fondamental lib\u00e9ral et d\u00e9mocratique&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>. Formule assez cocasse qui pourrait justifier la surveillance rapproch\u00e9e voire l&rsquo;interdiction d&rsquo;un parti en pleine expansion en passe de devenir le premier parti d&rsquo;Allemagne (il a r\u00e9uni 21 % des voix en f\u00e9vrier, derri\u00e8re la CDU-CSU) ! Cet office gardien du temple d\u00e9mocratique allemand s&rsquo;appuie sur un rapport de&nbsp;<em>\u00ab plus de 1.000 pages \u00bb<\/em>, selon le minist\u00e8re de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur, cit\u00e9 par&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/international\/article\/2025\/05\/02\/en-allemagne-le-service-de-renseignement-interieur-classe-l-afd-comme-un-parti-extremiste-de-droite-confirme_6602324_3210.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Le Monde<\/a><\/em>. Principal grief pour justifier cette mise \u00e0 l&rsquo;index ?&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;La conception du peuple bas\u00e9e sur l\u2019ethnie et l\u2019origine qui pr\u00e9vaut au sein du parti n\u2019est pas compatible avec l\u2019ordre fondamental lib\u00e9ral et d\u00e9mocratique.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;L\u2019AfD<\/em>, pr\u00e9cise encore le rapport,&nbsp;<em>ne consid\u00e8re pas, par exemple, les citoyens allemands issus de l\u2019immigration de pays \u00e0&nbsp;majorit\u00e9 musulmane comme des membres \u00e9quivalents du peuple allemand d\u00e9fini par le parti en termes ethniques.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;L&rsquo;office d\u00e9nonce aussi&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;une agitation continue contre certaines personnes ou groupes de personnes&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>. On le voit, la Nuit de cristal n&rsquo;est pas loin, dans l&rsquo;esprit des arbitres de la d\u00e9mocratie allemande&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Une fois encore, Vance rappelle \u00e0 l&rsquo;Europe ses fondements !<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019AfD a imm\u00e9diatement d\u00e9nonc\u00e9, vendredi, une d\u00e9cision&nbsp;<em>\u00ab manifestement motiv\u00e9e par des raisons politiques \u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;et un&nbsp;<em>\u00ab coup dur pour la d\u00e9mocratie allemande \u00bb<\/em>, rappelant ses r\u00e9sultats \u00e9lectoraux et sa place actuelle &#8211; en t\u00eate des sondages. Mais l&rsquo;heure n&rsquo;est plus o\u00f9 les partis de droite pers\u00e9cut\u00e9s \u00e9taient bien seuls \u00e0 protester de leur bonne foi sous le regard accusateur de tous les autres et du monde entier. D\u00e8s vendredi soir, les USA ont r\u00e9agi par la voix du vice-pr\u00e9sident J.D. Vance qui, sur le r\u00e9seau X, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 :&nbsp;<em>\u00ab L\u2019Ouest a fait tomber le mur de Berlin. Et il est reconstruit &#8211; pas par les Soviets ou les Russes mais par l\u2019establishment allemand. \u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;Il retweetait le message du secr\u00e9taire d\u2019\u00c9tat Marco Rubio, qui a accus\u00e9 Berlin de&nbsp;<em>\u00ab tyrannie \u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The AfD is the most popular party in Germany, and by far the most representative of East Germany. Now the bureaucrats try to destroy it. <br><br>The West tore down the Berlin Wall together. And it has been rebuilt\u2014not by the Soviets or the Russians, but by the German establishment. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Un6suHtSNJ\">https:\/\/t.co\/Un6suHtSNJ<\/a><\/p>&mdash; JD Vance (@JDVance) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JDVance\/status\/1918403354922799463?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 2, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ces Am\u00e9ricains trumpistes dont la bien-pensance europ\u00e9enne se gausse ont de la constance : Vance ne fait qu&rsquo;enfoncer le clou de&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bvoltaire.fr\/munich-jd-vance-eparpille-la-bien-pensance-europeenne-facon-puzzle\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">son discours d&rsquo;il y a trois mois \u00e0 Munich<\/a>, rappelant \u00e0 nouveau l&rsquo;Europe \u00e0 son identit\u00e9 d\u00e9mocratique. L&rsquo;in\u00e9ligibilit\u00e9 de Marine Le Pen et cette menace contre l&rsquo;AfD corroborent les craintes de Vance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">M\u00eame en Europe, des voix s&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8vent contre cet illib\u00e9ralisme !<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais &#8211; autre signe des temps &#8211; d&rsquo;autres voix s&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8vent pour d\u00e9fendre la d\u00e9mocratie europ\u00e9enne aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de ces Yankees. En Allemagne, le chancelier sortant, le socialiste Scholz lui-m\u00eame, a mis en garde, selon le quotidien&nbsp;<em>Bild<\/em>, contre la&nbsp;<em>\u00ab d\u00e9cision pr\u00e9cipit\u00e9e \u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;que constituerait une interdiction de l&rsquo;AfD sur le fondement de cette nouvelle classification,&nbsp;d&rsquo;autant que les juges supr\u00eames du pays ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 rejet\u00e9 toutes les demandes r\u00e9centes d\u2019interdiction. Et les conservateurs de la CDU du nouveau chancelier sont eux-m\u00eames divis\u00e9s \u00e0 ce sujet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais m\u00eame en France, des observateurs lib\u00e9raux, peu suspects de complaisance pour le RN ou l&rsquo;AfD, se sont \u00e9lev\u00e9s contre une \u00e9ventuelle interdiction. Ainsi, Jean-Dominique Merchet, de&nbsp;<em>l&rsquo;Opinion<\/em>, qui l&rsquo;a qualifi\u00e9e, sur X, de&nbsp;<em>\u00ab pure folie \u00bb<\/em>. On aimerait les voir plus nombreux et parler plus fort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\"><p lang=\"fr\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/Allemagne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Allemagne<\/a> Interdire un parti qui vient d\u2019obtenir plus de 10 millions de voix, 20% des suffrages et pr\u00e8s d\u2019un quart des d\u00e9put\u00e9s ? Une pure folie. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AfD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@AfD<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/cR7JZNjFeb\">https:\/\/t.co\/cR7JZNjFeb<\/a><\/p>&mdash; jean-do merchet (@jdomerchet) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jdomerchet\/status\/1918666808845803828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 3, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c0 ce sujet \u2014&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bvoltaire.fr\/allemagne-lafd-bientot-sous-surveillance-des-services-de-renseignement\/\">Allemagne : l\u2019AfD bient\u00f4t sous surveillance des services de renseignement<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plus largement, cette affaire d&rsquo;une possible mise sous contr\u00f4le de l&rsquo;AfD par le renseignement allemand, voire son interdiction (on n&rsquo;en est pas encore l\u00e0), au pr\u00e9texte qu&rsquo;il a \u00e9t\u00e9 classifi\u00e9 \u00ab extr\u00e9miste \u00bb par une agence plac\u00e9e sous l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 du ministre de l&rsquo;Int\u00e9rieur, pose la question des limites de l&rsquo;\u00c9tat de droit, \u00e9rig\u00e9 en totem, et de son primat sur la d\u00e9mocratie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bvoltaire.fr\/auteur\/fredericsirgant\/\">Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Sirgant<\/a>, dans D.P.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n<!-- AFS Analytics V7- Web Analytics 7.0 -->\n<script type='text\/javascript'>\n(function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i['AfsAnalyticsObject']=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){(i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)})(window,document,'script','\/\/code.afsanalytics.com\/js2\/analytics.js','aa');\naa('create', '00636949','auto');\naa('set', 'autotrack', 'on');\naa('set', 'autotrack.iframe', 'dataset');\naa('send', 'pageview');\n<\/script>\n<!-- End AFS Analytics \u2192\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles :Mai2025\u00a0&#8211; Avril 2025 &#8211; Mar 2025 &#8211; Fev 2025Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews Music 24\/24 : http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr \u00b0\u00b0 WEBTUBE : In\u00e9ligibilit\u00e9 contre Marine Le Pen, mise sous surveillance de l&rsquo;AfD : deux grands partis mis hors du jeu d\u00e9mocratique ? 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