{"id":27237,"date":"2024-11-10T08:41:36","date_gmt":"2024-11-10T06:41:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=27237"},"modified":"2024-11-10T08:41:36","modified_gmt":"2024-11-10T06:41:36","slug":"plan-trump-pour-la-paix-en-ukraine-lue-sera-le-gros-dindon-de-la-farce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2024\/11\/10\/plan-trump-pour-la-paix-en-ukraine-lue-sera-le-gros-dindon-de-la-farce\/","title":{"rendered":". Plan Trump pour la paix en Ukraine : l\u2019UE sera le gros dindon de la farce"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2024\/11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nov 2024<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2024\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct 2024<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2024\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2024<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2024\/08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Aout 2024<\/a> &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a> Music 24\/24 : <a href=\"http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.ripostelaique.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/hq720-5.webp\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00b0\u00b0 WEBTUBE<\/strong> : <em>Voil\u00e0 des mois que Trump promet de mettre fin \u00e0 la guerre\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0en 24 heures\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0s\u2019il est \u00e9lu. On attend donc son\u00a0 fameux plan, qui reste plus ou moins secret pour l\u2019instant.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lexpress.fr\/monde\/europe\/guerre-en-ukraine-le-plan-de-donald-trump-pour-arreter-le-conflit-3VWMT2KHQBFJXJI4T3ZZX43MVQ\">https:\/\/www.lexpress.fr\/monde\/europe\/guerre-en-ukraine-le-plan-de-donald-trump-pour-arreter-le-conflit-3VWMT2KHQBFJXJI4T3ZZX43MVQ<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On peut penser que tout va se discuter entre Trump et Poutine, Zelensky n\u2019ayant plus aucun poids dans ce dossier, compte tenu du quasi effondrement de son arm\u00e9e sur l\u2019ensemble du front. La grande illusion de l\u2019incursion de Koursk, n\u2019a dur\u00e9 que le temps d\u2019un mirage dans le d\u00e9sert. C\u2019est un fiasco de plus, o\u00f9 Kiev a perdu 25 000 hommes de ses meilleures troupes, dont 12 000 tu\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lass\u00e9 par le co\u00fbt d\u00e9mentiel d\u2019une aventure qui tourne au d\u00e9sastre militaire et humain pour l\u2019Ukraine, Trump entend mettre un terme au carnage et \u00e0 cette gabegie sans issue. Ce n\u2019est un secret pour personne, le milliardaire a toujours pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9 les affaires \u00e0 la guerre. Et s\u2019il y a une guerre \u00e0 faire, elle sera \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9vidence avant tout commerciale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Selon le Wall Street Journal, les \u00e9quipes de Trump planchent sur ce dossier et nul ne sait vraiment ce qui se trame.&nbsp;<strong>Mais quelques fuites circulent dans la presse<\/strong>&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 La ligne de front serait gel\u00e9e dans sa situation actuelle<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Une zone d\u00e9militaris\u00e9e serait cr\u00e9\u00e9e sur 1 200 km de fronti\u00e8re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Une mission de paix serait assur\u00e9e par les arm\u00e9es europ\u00e9ennes<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013&nbsp;Aucun soldat am\u00e9ricain n\u2019y participerait<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 L\u2019Ukraine ne pourrait pas int\u00e9grer l\u2019Otan avant 20 ans<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tout cela n\u2019a rien d\u2019officiel et reste \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tat de supposition. Sans l\u2019aval de Poutine, tout projet n\u2019a pas grande valeur. Mais il est clair que si Trump veut la paix, il veut avant tout se d\u00e9gager du bourbier et refiler le fardeau aux Europ\u00e9ens, pour lesquels il n\u2019a jamais eu une grande estime. Trump est tr\u00e8s clair.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>\u00ab&nbsp;Nous n\u2019enverrons pas d\u2019Am\u00e9ricains pour maintenir la paix en Ukraine. Et nous ne paierons pas pour cela. Demandez aux Polonais, aux Allemands, aux Britanniques et aux Fran\u00e7ais de le faire.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Evidemment, l\u2019\u00e9bauche de plan ci-dessus ne ferait pas l\u2019affaire de Zelensky, qui devrait conc\u00e9der un perte de 20% du territoire ukrainien, soit 120 000 km2. Pour celui qui pavoisait&nbsp; apr\u00e8s avoir occup\u00e9 1 000 km2 du territoire russe \u00e0 Koursk, la pilule est dure \u00e0 avaler. On est \u00e0 des ann\u00e9es lumi\u00e8re du<em>&nbsp;\u00ab&nbsp;plan de victoire&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em>&nbsp;du saltimbanque de Kiev, qui r\u00e9clame toujours plus d\u2019armes, plus de dollars et surtout des missiles longue port\u00e9e pour frapper Moscou. Sans oublier une rapide int\u00e9gration de l\u2019Otan pour assurer sa survie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais tout cela s\u2019annonce plus complexe que pr\u00e9vu. D\u2019abord, plusieurs visions de la situation divisent le camp Trump, entre ceux qui ne veulent pas paraitre capituler devant Poutine et ceux qui sont pr\u00eats \u00e0 brader l\u2019Ukraine pour en finir au plus vite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Des n\u00e9gociations secr\u00e8tes se d\u00e9roulent en Suisse, o\u00f9 des \u00e9missaires pr\u00e9parent une rencontre entre Russes, Ukrainiens, Am\u00e9ricains et Europ\u00e9ens. Je cite :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Dans ce huis clos haletant, il est question des lignes rouges des deux camps, des modalit\u00e9s d\u2019un \u00e9ventuel cessez-le-feu, des garanties de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 pour l\u2019Ukraine et des relations futures avec Moscou. \u00ab&nbsp;Ces rencontres ont le m\u00e9rite de donner aux parties une id\u00e9e de ce que l\u2019autre est pr\u00eat \u00e0 accepter. Il est donc crucial de les poursuivre, m\u00eame si rien ne s\u2019y d\u00e9cide&nbsp;\u00bb, indique l\u2019un des participants. Ces derniers mois, les initiatives de ce type se multiplient.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nul ne sait ce qui ressortira finalement du plan de paix en gestation. Mais il est permis d\u2019avancer quelques remarques :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Il y a fort \u00e0 parier que ce sera l\u2019Europe qui supportera l\u2019essentiel du fardeau, d\u2019autant plus que plusieurs pays, dont la France, ont eu l\u2019imprudence de signer des accords de d\u00e9fense bilat\u00e9raux avec l\u2019Ukraine. Trump aura beau jeu de nous dire :&nbsp;<em>\u00ab&nbsp;Assumez vos engagements !&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Fermer la porte de l\u2019Otan pour une courte dur\u00e9e de 20 ans n\u2019est pas s\u00e9rieux. D\u00e8s qu\u2019elle b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiera du parapluie de l\u2019article 5, l\u2019Ukraine engagera les hostilit\u00e9s pour r\u00e9cup\u00e9rer les territoires perdus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 La d\u00e9militarisation de l\u2019Ukraine est un objectif de Poutine. Quid de l\u2019arm\u00e9e ukrainienne, ou du moins ce qu\u2019il en restera ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Le verrouillage du front sur la ligne actuelle serait un danger pour la Russie. Comment assurer la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de la Crim\u00e9e si Poutine ne s\u2019empare pas d\u2019Odessa jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la Transnistrie, alors que le contr\u00f4le de la mer Noire est vital pour les Russes ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Il serait int\u00e9ressant de savoir qui va payer la reconstruction de l\u2019Ukraine et qui va b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier des juteux contrats, convoit\u00e9s depuis longtemps par les Am\u00e9ricains ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Enfin, quid des 300 milliards d\u2019avoirs russes spoli\u00e9s par les Occidentaux ? Je suppose que la restitution de ce magot sera une priorit\u00e9 de Poutine dans les n\u00e9gociations futures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Bref, on ne sait rien de ce qui se trame, mais je pense que le grand perdant sera Zelensky, qui s\u2019est pris na\u00efvement pour Churchill et que le gros dindon de la farce sera l\u2019UE, qui s\u2019est impliqu\u00e9e stupidement dans une guerre qui n\u2019est pas la sienne.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trump doit bien rigoler ! Et Poutine vient de le f\u00e9liciter pour sa r\u00e9\u00e9lection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jacques Guillemain<\/strong>, Riposte La\u00efque<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n<!-- AFS Analytics V7- Web Analytics 7.0 -->\n<script type='text\/javascript'>\n(function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i['AfsAnalyticsObject']=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){(i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)})(window,document,'script','\/\/code.afsanalytics.com\/js2\/analytics.js','aa');\naa('create', '00636949','auto');\naa('set', 'autotrack', 'on');\naa('set', 'autotrack.iframe', 'dataset');\naa('send', 'pageview');\n<\/script>\n<!-- End AFS Analytics \u2192\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0: Nov 2024 &#8211; Oct 2024 &#8211; Sept 2024 &#8211; Aout 2024 &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews Music 24\/24 : http:\/\/DJMUSIC.fr \u00b0\u00b0 WEBTUBE : Voil\u00e0 des mois que Trump promet de mettre fin \u00e0 la guerre\u00a0\u00ab\u00a0en 24 heures\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0s\u2019il est \u00e9lu. 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