{"id":24595,"date":"2023-12-11T19:40:33","date_gmt":"2023-12-11T19:40:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=24595"},"modified":"2023-12-11T19:40:33","modified_gmt":"2023-12-11T19:40:33","slug":"darmanin-dissout-une-association-de-cathos-tradis-pour-une-raison-quelconque","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2023\/12\/11\/darmanin-dissout-une-association-de-cathos-tradis-pour-une-raison-quelconque\/","title":{"rendered":". Darmanin dissout une association de cathos tradis pour une raison quelconque"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dec. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nov. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2023<\/a> &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.lesechos.com\/api\/v1\/images\/view\/64d121d164020d3dbf07908a\/1280x720\/0901306913597-web-tete.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>++ WEBTUBE<\/strong> : <em>Darmanin ne savait apparemment pas quoi dissoudre pour faire diversion apr\u00e8s la razzia islamique de Cr\u00e9pol, il a donc d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de dissoudre un truc au hasard avec des K\u00e9vin et des Matt\u00e9o dedans.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lefigaro.fr\/politique\/gerald-darmanin-annonce-la-dissolution-d-academia-christiana-un-mouvement-catholique-traditionaliste-20231210\">Le Figaro<\/a> :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le ministre de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur G\u00e9rald Darmanin a annonc\u00e9 dimanche qu\u2019il pr\u00e9senterait dans \u00ables semaines qui viennent\u00bb en Conseil des ministres <strong>la dissolution d\u2019Academia Christiana<\/strong>, un mouvement de catholiques favorables \u00e0 la messe Saint Pie V, et jug\u00e9 comme proche de la droite identitaire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00abNous pr\u00e9senterons leur <strong>dissolution<\/strong> en Conseil des ministres dans les semaines qui viennent\u00bb, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 sur le m\u00e9dia en ligne Brut le ministre de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur. Ce groupe serait connu pour ses <strong>\u00abappels \u00e0 la haine et \u00e0 la discrimination\u00bb<\/strong>, assure \u00e0 l\u2019AFP l\u2019entourage du ministre.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cette notion subjective de \u00ab&nbsp;haine&nbsp;\u00bb et de \u00ab&nbsp;discrimination&nbsp;\u00bb, d\u00e9finie souverainement par le pouvoir \u00e9tabli, permet d\u2019interdire n\u2019importe quoi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fond\u00e9e en 2013 par des jeunes proches de la mouvance identitaire, Academia Christiana se pr\u00e9sente comme un institut de formation \u00abint\u00e9grale\u00bb, \u00e0 la fois \u00abspirituelle, morale, intellectuelle et sportive\u00bb. Cette organisation est pr\u00e9sid\u00e9e par Victor Aubert, ancien professeur de fran\u00e7ais et philosophie dans un \u00e9tablissement scolaire priv\u00e9 hors contrat dans l\u2019Orne. <strong>\u00abIl y a au moins trois autres groupes d\u2019ultradroite\u00bb<\/strong> dans le viseur des services de renseignement, a aussi d\u00e9clar\u00e9 le ministre de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur, sans donner de d\u00e9tails.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u00e0 non plus, personne ne sait ce que recouvre le concept \u00ab&nbsp;d\u2019ultradroite&nbsp;\u00bb, ni son p\u00e9rim\u00e8tre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous n\u2019en saurons jamais rien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00abEn voulant nous dissoudre, le gouvernement s\u2019en prend une fois de plus aux catholiques, qu\u2019il consid\u00e8re comme des citoyens de seconde zone\u00bb, a r\u00e9agi Academia Christiana sur son site internet, en accusant l\u2019ex\u00e9cutif de chercher \u00e0 \u00abinterdire toute pens\u00e9e ou r\u00e9flexion en dehors de l\u2019id\u00e9ologie la\u00efciste et consum\u00e9riste\u00bb. \u00ab\u00c0 l\u2019heure o\u00f9 les coups de couteau fusent matin, midi et soir, la priorit\u00e9 de la R\u00e9publique est de <strong>dissoudre<\/strong> un institut de formation dont les cadres sont tous d\u2019honn\u00eates p\u00e8res et m\u00e8res de famille\u00bb, a d\u00e9plor\u00e9 l\u2019organisation, qui pr\u00e9voit de \u00abcontester cette proc\u00e9dure absurde\u00bb devant le Conseil d\u2019Etat.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il en faut peu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ce sont juste des cathos tradis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/0\/0d\/Academia_Christiana_-_Universit%C3%A9_d%27%C3%A9t%C3%A9_2017_%2812%29.jpg\/1200px-Academia_Christiana_-_Universit%C3%A9_d%27%C3%A9t%C3%A9_2017_%2812%29.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/c2\/Academia_Christiana_-_Universit%C3%A9_d%27%C3%A9t%C3%A9_2017_%284%29.jpg\/1024px-Academia_Christiana_-_Universit%C3%A9_d%27%C3%A9t%C3%A9_2017_%284%29.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/nouveaupresent.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/thumbnail_AC_2022_-_-370-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/media\/F_8n_0-XwAAjtpo.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J\u2019imagine que les gens se sentiront plus en s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans les rues quand cette association sera interdite ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Darmanin le pense, m\u00eame s\u2019il ne conna\u00eet pas le dossier. Il confond cette association avec Civitas, qu\u2019il a d\u00e9j\u00e0 dissout.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"fr\" dir=\"ltr\">Le ministre <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GDarmanin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@GDarmanin<\/a> mentionne des faits totalement imaginaires. Cela montre que le dossier est \u00e0 la fois vide, et motiv\u00e9 par de vieilles rengaines id\u00e9ologiques. Cette affaire est de plus en plus absurde. Cet amateurisme pourrait lui co\u00fbter une condamnation pour diffamation. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/MsCJKyvoJb\">pic.twitter.com\/MsCJKyvoJb<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Academia Christiana (@AcademiaChristi) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AcademiaChristi\/status\/1734126965450215814?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 11, 2023<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C\u2019est pr\u00e9visible. Darmanin n\u2019a aucune id\u00e9e concr\u00e8te de ce qu\u2019il dissout dans les faits. Tous les ministres de l\u2019Int\u00e9rieur ont dans leurs tiroirs une pile de fusibles \u00e0 dissoudre pour donner le change m\u00e9diatique quand le besoin s\u2019en fait sentir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Darmanin a demand\u00e9 \u00e0 un bureaucrate quelconque de lui en donner 4 ou 5 \u00e0 dissoudre, au rythme d\u2019une toutes les deux ou trois semaines, pour occuper l\u2019espace m\u00e9diatique. \u00c0 force de dissoudre des groupes, le r\u00e9gime vient \u00e0 en manquer et il doit viser de plus en plus large, au risque de dissoudre n\u2019importe quoi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ceci dit, \u00e7a ne change rien. Les scribes du minist\u00e8re trouveront ce qu\u2019il faut trouver, \u00e0 pr\u00e9sent que le ministre a annonc\u00e9 la chose. Il faut \u00e9viter que l\u2019int\u00e9ress\u00e9 ne perde la face.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La r\u00e9ponse du Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat sera int\u00e9ressante. Il a sauv\u00e9 la mise des \u00ab\u00a0Soul\u00e8vements de la Terre\u00a0\u00bb, un groupe \u00e9cologiste effectivement port\u00e9 sur le sabotage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/huffpost-focus.sirius.press\/2023\/06\/11\/529\/0\/5072\/2853\/1820\/1023\/75\/0\/d1abf52_1686509996654-000-33j67dz.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La r\u00e9ponse \u00e9tait que la violence de ce groupe n\u2019\u00e9tait pas si grave.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/societe\/article\/2023\/11\/09\/le-conseil-d-etat-annule-la-dissolution-des-soulevements-de-la-terre_6199172_3224.html\">Le Monde<\/a> :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le Conseil d\u2019Etat a <strong>annul\u00e9<\/strong>, jeudi 9&nbsp;novembre, la dissolution des Soul\u00e8vements de la Terre. Le collectif \u00e9cologiste avait \u00e9t\u00e9 dissous le 21&nbsp;juin en conseil des ministres, le gouvernement d\u00e9non\u00e7ant le \u00ab&nbsp;recours \u00e0 la violence&nbsp;\u00bb des membres du groupe. \u00ab&nbsp;Une mesure de dissolution porte une atteinte grave \u00e0 la libert\u00e9 d\u2019association, principe fondamental reconnu par les lois de la R\u00e9publique, a tenu \u00e0 rappeler la haute juridiction administrative. Elle ne peut donc \u00eatre mise en \u0153uvre que pour \u00e9viter des troubles graves \u00e0 l\u2019ordre public.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Selon le Conseil d\u2019Etat, \u00ab&nbsp;<strong>aucune provocation \u00e0 la violence<\/strong> contre les personnes ne peut \u00eatre imput\u00e9e aux Soul\u00e8vements de la Terre&nbsp;\u00bb. Le relais, avec une certaine complaisance, d\u2019images d\u2019affrontements de manifestants avec les forces de l\u2019ordre, notamment contre la construction de retenues d\u2019eau \u00e0 Sainte-Soline (Deux-S\u00e8vres), \u00ab&nbsp;ne constitue pas une revendication, une valorisation ou une justification de tels agissements&nbsp;\u00bb, a insist\u00e9 le Conseil d\u2019Etat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La juridiction administrative a toutefois estim\u00e9 que Les Soul\u00e8vements de la Terre <strong>\u00ab [s\u2019\u00e9taient] bien livr\u00e9s \u00e0 des provocations, \u00e0 des agissements violents \u00e0 l\u2019encontre des biens \u00bb<\/strong>. N\u00e9anmoins, leur dissolution ne constituait pas \u00ab une mesure adapt\u00e9e, n\u00e9cessaire et proportionn\u00e9e <strong>\u00e0 la gravit\u00e9 des troubles<\/strong> susceptibles d\u2019\u00eatre port\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019ordre public \u00bb, selon elle.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le r\u00e9chauffisme \u00e9tant un dogme du syst\u00e8me, ces provocateurs sont prot\u00e9g\u00e9s. Darmanin a fait face \u00e0 des int\u00e9r\u00eats sup\u00e9rieurs qui l\u2019ont rappel\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019ordre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En revanche, les autres groupes cibl\u00e9s au motif de \u00ab&nbsp;discrimination&nbsp;\u00bb avaient bien \u00e9t\u00e9 dissouts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il suffit que des commentaires laiss\u00e9s sur Facebook ou Twitter soient \u00ab&nbsp;haineux&nbsp;\u00bb ou \u00ab&nbsp;discriminatoires&nbsp;\u00bb pour que l\u2019organisation en porte la responsabilit\u00e9 par \u00ab&nbsp;association&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.conseil-etat.fr\/actualites\/soulevements-de-la-terre-gale-alvarium-cri-le-conseil-d-etat-precise-les-criteres-justifiant-la-dissolution-d-une-association-ou-d-un-groupement\">Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat<\/a> :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019Alvarium, qui entretient des liens avec des groupuscules appelant \u00e0 la <strong>discrimination<\/strong>, a publi\u00e9 des messages <strong>justifiant la discrimination et la haine<\/strong> envers les personnes \u00e9trang\u00e8res ou les Fran\u00e7ais issus de l\u2019immigration par leur assimilation \u00e0 des d\u00e9linquants ou des criminels, \u00e0 des islamistes ou des terroristes. Le Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat estime que sa dissolution, en tant qu\u2019elle \u00e9tait fond\u00e9e sur le 6\u00b0 de l\u2019article L. 212-1, n\u2019\u00e9tait pas ill\u00e9gale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La Coordination contre le racisme et l\u2019islamophobie a publi\u00e9 des propos tendant \u00e0 imposer l\u2019id\u00e9e que les pouvoirs publics, ou encore de nombreux partis politiques et m\u00e9dias, seraient syst\u00e9matiquement hostiles aux musulmans et instrumentaliseraient l\u2019antis\u00e9mitisme pour leur nuire. Ces publications ont suscit\u00e9 de nombreux commentaires <strong>haineux<\/strong>, <strong>antis\u00e9mites<\/strong> et <strong>injurieux<\/strong> sans que l\u2019association ne tente de les contredire ou de les effacer. Le Conseil d\u2019\u00c9tat estime que sa dissolution, en tant qu\u2019elle \u00e9tait fond\u00e9e sur le 6\u00b0 de l\u2019article L. 212-1, n\u2019\u00e9tait pas ill\u00e9gale.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bref, c\u2019est le r\u00e8gne du pilpoul. C\u2019est aussi la preuve que des associations respectueuses de la l\u00e9gislations en vigueur n\u2019en retirent aucun avantage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La strat\u00e9gie des Unit\u00e9s de Propagande Autonomes est une premi\u00e8re r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 ce nouveau paradigme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dans un autre registre, le Hamas ne demande pas \u00e0 l\u2019occupant juif de lui reconna\u00eetre le droit d\u2019exister.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019organisation clandestine doit \u00eatre la r\u00e8gle d\u00e9sormais, ce qui n\u2019implique pas pour autant le recours \u00e0 la violence. 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