{"id":24548,"date":"2023-12-08T10:28:48","date_gmt":"2023-12-08T10:28:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=24548"},"modified":"2023-12-08T10:28:48","modified_gmt":"2023-12-08T10:28:48","slug":"ukraine-les-moments-difficiles-jean-baptiste-noe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2023\/12\/08\/ukraine-les-moments-difficiles-jean-baptiste-noe\/","title":{"rendered":". Ukraine : les moments difficiles (Jean-Baptiste No\u00e9)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dec. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nov. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2023<\/a> &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.radio-canada.ca\/q_auto,w_700\/v1\/ici-info\/16x9\/ukraine-bakhmout-donetsk-guerre.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>++ WEBTUBE<\/strong> :  <em>Ce n\u2019est pas parce que les regards se sont d\u00e9port\u00e9s vers Gaza qu\u2019il ne se passe plus rien sur le front ukrainien. Apr\u00e8s l\u2019\u00e9chec de la contre-offensive, Kiev entre dans le dur. Les tensions priv\u00e9es surgissent aux yeux du public et les alli\u00e9s occidentaux s\u2019interrogent sur les suites \u00e0 mener. Ce qui se disait \u00e0 bas mot d\u00e9but septembre est d\u00e9sormais \u00e9voqu\u00e9 publiquement et ouvertement\u00a0: la contre-offensive ukrainienne a \u00e9chou\u00e9, or il s\u2019agissait d\u2019un fusil \u00e0 un coup. Pire, l\u2019arm\u00e9e ukrainienne est \u00e0 bout. Si les pertes ne sont pas rendues publiques, la liste des morts et des bless\u00e9s s\u2019allonge. Le d\u00e9couragement touche les populations civiles, qui comprennent que l\u2019arm\u00e9e ne pourra pas reprendre les 20% du territoire tenu par la Russie. Pour Kiev, l\u2019enjeu n\u2019est plus de percer, mais de tenir\u00a0; le risque \u00e9tant une rupture du front conduisant \u00e0 une avanc\u00e9e des troupes russes qui pourrait mettre la capitale en danger. Dans ces conditions, que faire\u00a0? N\u00e9gocier avec la Russie pour reconnaitre la perte des territoires et s\u00e9curiser l\u2019Ukraine restante ou continuer les combats jusqu\u2019\u00e0 entrer dans une troisi\u00e8me ann\u00e9e de guerre\u00a0?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cordon ombilical occidental<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sans l\u2019aide de l\u2019Occident, l\u2019Ukraine ne pourra pas r\u00e9sister. Apr\u00e8s avoir refus\u00e9 une premi\u00e8re fois de voter une rallonge budg\u00e9taire, le Congr\u00e8s am\u00e9ricain est somm\u00e9 par Joe Biden de d\u00e9gager cette fois des fonds en faveur de Kiev. \u00ab&nbsp;<em>Sans une action du Congr\u00e8s d\u2019ici la fin de l\u2019ann\u00e9e, nous serons \u00e0 court de ressources pour acheter des armes et des \u00e9quipements \u00e0 l\u2019Ukraine et pour fournir du mat\u00e9riel provenant des stocks de l\u2019arm\u00e9e am\u00e9ricaine&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;<\/em>\u00e9crit la directrice du Bureau de la gestion et du budget aux dirigeants du S\u00e9nat et de la Chambre des Repr\u00e9sentants. Le choix leur est pos\u00e9 de fa\u00e7on claire&nbsp;: soit vous votez une nouvelle aide, soit l\u2019Ukraine sera asphyxi\u00e9e. Mais si les D\u00e9mocrates sont plut\u00f4t enclins \u00e0 l\u2019aide, ce n\u2019est nullement le cas des R\u00e9publicains qui estiment que l\u2019Am\u00e9rique a assez donn\u00e9 et qu\u2019elle devrait plut\u00f4t aider le Kansas ou l\u2019Arizona. C\u2019est une question de politique internationale, mais surtout de politique int\u00e9rieure, nombreux \u00e9tant les Am\u00e9ricains qui ne d\u00e9sirent gu\u00e8re payer pour l\u2019Ukraine. Le pays est loin, souvent mal situ\u00e9 sur les cartes, et l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat d\u2019une aide US ne leur saute pas aux yeux, surtout au moment o\u00f9 la Chine se r\u00e9v\u00e8le \u00eatre la v\u00e9ritable menace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les interrogations viennent aussi d\u2019Europe. Le Royaume-Uni fera comme les \u00c9tats-Unis puisque leur politique \u00e9trang\u00e8re est calqu\u00e9e sur Washington. La Hongrie, la Slovaquie et la Pologne commencent \u00e0 \u00e9mettre des doutes publics. Non qu\u2019ils ne veuillent pas aider l\u2019Ukraine, mais ils sont r\u00e9ticents \u00e0 aider un pays qui ne pourra pas gagner. \u00c0 quoi bon d\u00e9penser autant d\u2019argent et faire mourir des jeunes Ukrainiens pour ne pas percer le front et devoir n\u00e9gocier un cessez-le-feu dans quelques mois&nbsp;? N\u2019est-il pas tant d\u2019arr\u00eater le massacre et de trouver une solution de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 p\u00e9renne \u00e0 l\u2019Ukraine&nbsp;? Tel est en substance ce qui se pense et ce qui se dit dans la Mittle Europa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zelensky ne s\u2019y est pas tromp\u00e9. Apr\u00e8s s\u2019\u00eatre rendu \u00e0 Washington en septembre, c\u2019est en visioconf\u00e9rence qu\u2019il devait s\u2019adresser \u00e0 des membres du Congr\u00e8s le 5 d\u00e9cembre afin de les convaincre de poursuivre l\u2019aide financi\u00e8re. Une r\u00e9union finalement annul\u00e9e \u00e0 la derni\u00e8re minute, sans explication. Beaucoup y voient une r\u00e9trogradation de Zelensky, dont les portes am\u00e9ricaines sont en train de se fermer. Sans ses soutiens internationaux, il va avoir beaucoup de mal \u00e0 peser sur la politique int\u00e9rieure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Remises en cause ukrainiennes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019enlisement aiguise les couteaux. Apr\u00e8s l\u2019entretien du chef d\u2019\u00e9tat-major dans&nbsp;<em>The Economist<\/em>&nbsp;pour annoncer l\u2019\u00e9chec de la contre-offensive, c\u2019est le maire de Kiev qui s\u2019est lev\u00e9 contre Zelensky dans un entretien au&nbsp;<em>Spiegel.&nbsp;<\/em>En cause, le report de l\u2019\u00e9lection pr\u00e9sidentielle pr\u00e9vue en mars 2024. Le pr\u00e9sident sortant fait justement remarquer qu\u2019il n\u2019est possible d\u2019organiser une campagne \u00e9lectorale et une \u00e9lection dans un pays en guerre. Comment faire voter les soldats mobilis\u00e9s sur le front, les Ukrainiens r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tranger o\u00f9 ceux qui vivent en zone occup\u00e9e par la Russie&nbsp;? Une campagne, c\u2019est aussi la confrontation d\u2019id\u00e9es et de strat\u00e9gies diff\u00e9rentes. On voit mal la strat\u00e9gie \u00e0 suivre face \u00e0 la guerre et \u00e0 la Russie d\u00e9battue \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision et dans les journaux. Ce qui est possible en temps de paix ne l\u2019est pas en temps de guerre. Mais beaucoup craignent que la d\u00e9mocratie soit suspendue trop longtemps et surtout que la centralisation du pouvoir effectu\u00e9e durant le conflit ne soit pas rel\u00e2ch\u00e9e \u00e0 la fin de celui-ci. Le maire de Kiev, Vitali Klitschko, fait ainsi remarquer que seules les communes conservent une part de libert\u00e9s locales. Pour les autres strates, le pouvoir a \u00e9t\u00e9 capt\u00e9 par l\u2019\u00c9tat. \u00c0 quoi se battre pour la d\u00e9mocratie si l\u2019Ukraine la foule aux pieds, exprime en substance le maire de Kiev&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;<em>\u00c0 un moment donn\u00e9, nous ne serons plus diff\u00e9rents de la Russie, o\u00f9 tout d\u00e9pend du caprice d\u2019un seul homme<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. Zelensky appr\u00e9ciera d\u2019\u00eatre compar\u00e9 \u00e0 Poutine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Divisions internes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Des divergences de vues qui sont exprim\u00e9es dans la presse internationale, anglaise et allemande, les deux pays qui quittent en Europe pour l\u2019Ukraine. Ces entretiens sont autant adress\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019opinion internationale qu\u2019aux Ukrainiens eux-m\u00eames. Ils t\u00e9moignent des divergences de plus en plus fortes qui se cristallisent au sein de l\u2019appareil d\u2019\u00c9tat ukrainien. Des divisions qui sont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9es au grand public par un article du&nbsp;<em>Washington Post<\/em>, (4 d\u00e9cembre), journal propri\u00e9t\u00e9 de Facebook. La contre-offensive devait initialement d\u00e9buter en avril. Ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 report\u00e9e d\u2019un mois pour des raisons encore non \u00e9lucid\u00e9es, les Russes ont exploit\u00e9 ce retard pour renforcer leurs lignes de d\u00e9fense, rendant l\u2019attaque ukrainienne d\u2019autant plus difficile. Une arm\u00e9e ukrainienne qui est regard\u00e9e avec condescendance comme \u00e9tant incapable de se mettre au niveau des normes OTAN. L\u2019\u00e9chec suscite des attaques lourdes, parfois autant d\u00e9mesur\u00e9es que l\u2019\u00e9tait le soutien sans faille de l\u2019\u00e9t\u00e9 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Au regard de tous ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments, la guerre en Ukraine entre dans ses derni\u00e8res semaines. Le conflit devrait trouver une issue au printemps 2024, issue qui d\u00e9pendra beaucoup du rapport de force \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0. Il restera deux dossiers extr\u00eamement compliqu\u00e9s\u00a0: la lev\u00e9e des sanctions \u00e9conomiques contre la Russie et l\u2019\u00e9tablissement d\u2019un arc de paix et de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 en Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/institutdeslibertes.org\/auteur\/jbnoe\/\">Jean-Baptiste No\u00e9<\/a>, Institut des libert\u00e9s<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n<!-- AFS Analytics V7- Web Analytics 7.0 -->\n<script type='text\/javascript'>\n(function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i['AfsAnalyticsObject']=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){(i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)})(window,document,'script','\/\/code.afsanalytics.com\/js2\/analytics.js','aa');\naa('create', '00636949','auto');\naa('set', 'autotrack', 'on');\naa('set', 'autotrack.iframe', 'dataset');\naa('send', 'pageview');\n<\/script>\n<!-- End AFS Analytics -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : Dec. 2023 &#8211; Nov. 2023 &#8211; Oct. 2023 &#8211; Sept 2023 &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews ++ WEBTUBE : Ce n\u2019est pas parce que les regards se sont d\u00e9port\u00e9s vers Gaza qu\u2019il ne se passe plus rien sur le front ukrainien. 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