{"id":24539,"date":"2023-12-08T06:21:56","date_gmt":"2023-12-08T06:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=24539"},"modified":"2023-12-08T06:21:56","modified_gmt":"2023-12-08T06:21:56","slug":"ukraine-les-chiffres-du-massacre-et-le-bilan-de-la-contre-offensive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2023\/12\/08\/ukraine-les-chiffres-du-massacre-et-le-bilan-de-la-contre-offensive\/","title":{"rendered":". Ukraine : les chiffres du massacre et le bilan de la contre-offensive"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dec. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/2023\/11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nov. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2023<\/a> &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ripostelaique.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/000_33xj4jm.webp\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>++ WEBTUBE<\/strong> : <em>Les historiens auront tout leur temps et disposeront de toutes les archives pour d\u00e9cortiquer cette contre-offensive rat\u00e9e. Personne ne veut endosser la responsabilit\u00e9 de cette h\u00e9catombe,\u00a0<strong>mais la principale raison de la d\u00e9b\u00e2cle depuis le 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022 est d\u2019avoir sous-estim\u00e9 la formidable puissance de l\u2019arm\u00e9e russe et de son industrie de l\u2019armement.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Voici le ratio des pertes donn\u00e9 par l\u2019historien Marc Legrand, obtenu de sources crois\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nombre de soldats ukrainiens tu\u00e9s chaque mois :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Du 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022 \u00e0 juillet 2022 : 10 000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De juillet \u00e0 d\u00e9cembre 2022 : 13 000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De d\u00e9cembre 2022 \u00e0 mai 2023 : 18 000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De mai 2023 \u00e0 aujourd\u2019hui 20 000<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ratio des pertes russes et ukrainiennes sur les m\u00eames p\u00e9riodes :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un soldat russe tu\u00e9 pour 9 soldats ukrainiens<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un Russe tu\u00e9 pour 12 Ukrainiens<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un Russe tu\u00e9 pour 15 Ukrainiens<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un Russe tu\u00e9 pour 12 Ukrainiens<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ces chiffres ne tiennent pas compte des pertes de Wagner<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jacques Baud donne une fourchette de 400 \u00e0 500 000 tu\u00e9s ukrainiens, avec un ratio de pertes de 1 \u00e0 11 en faveur des Russes. On doit plut\u00f4t \u00eatre proche des 400 000 tu\u00e9s, avec 600 000 bless\u00e9s et 50 000 mutil\u00e9s. C\u2019est effrayant compte tenu que les Russes n\u2019ont pas recul\u00e9 d\u2019un pouce depuis leur repli sur le Donbass. L\u2019exemple m\u00eame du sacrifice inutile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pour la seule journ\u00e9e d\u2019hier, Kiev d\u00e9plore 1 010 soldats tu\u00e9s et 1 250 bless\u00e9s<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La presse fran\u00e7aise est plut\u00f4t discr\u00e8te sur le naufrage de la contre-offensive de Kiev, qui a co\u00fbt\u00e9 la vie \u00e0 pr\u00e8s de 130 000 soldats ukrainiens depuis le 4 juin 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il faut dire qu\u2019apr\u00e8s nous avoir abreuv\u00e9s de sornettes en tous genres, en nous promettant chaque matin l\u2019in\u00e9luctable d\u00e9faite du criminel de guerre Poutine, m\u00e9dias et strat\u00e8ges de nos plateaux TV ont bien du mal \u00e0 reconna\u00eetre qu\u2019au hit parade de la nullit\u00e9, ils caracolent au sommet sans aucun risque d\u2019\u00eatre d\u00e9tr\u00f4n\u00e9s. Il est vrai qu\u2019endosser l\u2019uniforme du parfait cr\u00e9tin n\u2019a rien de r\u00e9jouissant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais c\u00f4t\u00e9 anglo-saxon, la presse beaucoup plus libre et moins servile n\u2019h\u00e9site pas \u00e0 \u00e9taler au grand jour les causes du naufrage ukrainien et notamment celles de la contre-offensive, devenue le tombeau de l\u2019arm\u00e9e ki\u00e9vienne.&nbsp;<strong>C\u2019est ainsi que le&nbsp;<em>Washington Post<\/em>&nbsp;expose \u00e0 la fois les rat\u00e9s de la planification anglo-am\u00e9ricaine de l\u2019op\u00e9ration et les loup\u00e9s de son ex\u00e9cution.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/reseauinternational.net\/la-guerre-en-ukraine-est-terminee\/\">https:\/\/reseauinternational.net\/la-guerre-en-ukraine-est-terminee\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rappelons que c\u2019est d\u2019abord Boris Johnson qui a rejet\u00e9 toute n\u00e9gociation en 2022. D\u00e8s lors, ce ne fut que descente aux enfers pour les Ukrainiens et d\u00e9convenues en s\u00e9rie pour l\u2019Otan. Rien de bien nouveau, cette alliance est incapable de gagner une guerre, m\u00eame \u00e0 30 contre 1.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais c\u2019est le d\u00e9roulement de la contre-offensive qui illustre le mieux le naufrage des arm\u00e9es occidentales face \u00e0 l\u2019Ours russe, que nos illumin\u00e9s partis la fleur au fusil annon\u00e7aient d\u00e9j\u00e0 agonisant au bout d\u2019un mois de guerre. 21 mois plus tard, on voit le r\u00e9sultat. Il n\u2019y a plus d\u2019arm\u00e9e ukrainienne et l\u2019arm\u00e9e russe est au fa\u00eete de sa puissance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Planification<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Divisions et d\u00e9saccords entre officiers anglo-saxons et ukrainiens<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les USA souhaitaient une attaque frontale cibl\u00e9e, tandis que les Ukrainiens envisageaient trois attaques distinctes sur le front de 1 000 km<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il s\u2019agissait d\u2019atteindre la mer d\u2019Azov en deux mois (\u00e0 120 km) pour couper l\u2019arm\u00e9e russe en deux<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Impr\u00e9paration des forces ukrainiennes<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Absence de couverture a\u00e9rienne. Ajoutons que le rapport des artilleries est de 1 \u00e0 8<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sous-estimation des d\u00e9fenses russes du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Sourovikine, b\u00e2ties sur trois lignes. Elles se sont r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9es infranchissables<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les officiers am\u00e9ricains ont balay\u00e9 les craintes ukrainiennes de subir de lourdes pertes, en pr\u00e9textant que l\u2019absence de contre-offensive co\u00fbterait encore plus cher en vies humaines !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ex\u00e9cution<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On a vu dans certaines unit\u00e9s, \u00e9quip\u00e9es d\u2019armes occidentales r\u00e9centes, 70 % des soldats entrer dans la fournaise sans aucune exp\u00e9rience du combat !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les revers ukrainiens ont cr\u00e9\u00e9 des dissensions entre l\u2019\u00e9tat-major ukrainien et le Pentagone sur la strat\u00e9gie \u00e0 mener pour enfoncer la muraille Sourovikine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les d\u00e9cisions prises sur le champ de bataille ont \u00e9t\u00e9 contest\u00e9es par les Am\u00e9ricains, au point que le dialogue entre chefs militaires des deux pays a \u00e9t\u00e9 parfois rompu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cChaque camp reprochait \u00e0 l\u2019autre de commettre des erreurs ou des fautes d\u2019appr\u00e9ciation. Les responsables militaires am\u00e9ricains ont conclu que l\u2019Ukraine n\u2019avait pas respect\u00e9 les tactiques militaires de base, notamment l\u2019utilisation de la reconnaissance au sol pour comprendre la densit\u00e9 des champs de mines. Les responsables ukrainiens ont d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que les Am\u00e9ricains ne semblaient pas comprendre comment les drones d\u2019attaque et d\u2019autres technologies avaient transform\u00e9 le champ de bataille.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Le bilan est de 130 000 tu\u00e9s pour 320 km2 repris. Soit 400 morts au kilom\u00e8tre carr\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et de leur c\u00f4t\u00e9, les Russes reprenaient davantage de terrain dans la r\u00e9gion de Kharkov. Aujourd\u2019hui, ils avancent de tous c\u00f4t\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les historiens auront tout leur temps et disposeront de toutes les archives pour d\u00e9cortiquer cette contre-offensive rat\u00e9e. Personne ne veut endosser la responsabilit\u00e9 de cette h\u00e9catombe,&nbsp;<strong>mais la principale raison de la d\u00e9b\u00e2cle depuis le 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022 est d\u2019avoir sous-estim\u00e9 la formidable puissance de l\u2019arm\u00e9e russe et de son industrie de l\u2019armement.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pas un seul responsable occidental, militaire ou civil, n\u2019a compris que pendant que les Occidentaux r\u00e9coltaient les dividendes de la paix depuis 1990, Poutine reconstruisait son arm\u00e9e avec les meilleurs ing\u00e9nieurs de la plan\u00e8te. Et connaissant le patriotisme russe, qui n\u2019a jamais faibli depuis Stalingrad, il \u00e9tait clair que l\u2019Otan n\u2019avait aucune chance de l\u2019emporter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et si d\u2019aventure Biden d\u00e9cidait de poursuivre l\u2019escalade au lieu de faire la paix, ce serait bien pire pour l\u2019Otan. Aucun pays ne poss\u00e8de les armes de derni\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9ration de la Russie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sans besoin de l\u2019arme nucl\u00e9aire, Poutine pourrait envoyer par le fond les 11 porte-avions de Biden en quelques minutes, sans aucune parade possible face aux missiles hypersoniques.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ce n\u2019est pas un hasard si Biden n\u2019a jamais envoy\u00e9 ses l\u00e9gions en Ukraine. Saigner le peuple ukrainien et lui faire porter le chapeau de ses \u00e9checs, c\u2019est beaucoup moins risqu\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On le lira bient\u00f4t dans la presse. Ce n\u2019est pas l\u2019Otan qui a pris une \u00e9ni\u00e8me d\u00e9culott\u00e9e, c\u2019est l\u2019Ukraine qui n\u2019a pas respect\u00e9 la doctrine militaire de l\u2019Otan. Le peuple saign\u00e9 \u00e0 blanc, c\u2019est finalement la faute des g\u00e9n\u00e9raux de Zelensky.&nbsp;<strong>Le professeur est excellent, mais l\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ve est d\u00e9cid\u00e9ment trop mauvais.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je crois que Zelensky aurait mieux fait de prendre son taxi pour les \u00c9tats-Unis d\u00e8s mars 2022. Les mauvais vents pourraient bien souffler de plus en plus fort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En attendant, Biden r\u00e9clame 106 milliards au Congr\u00e8s pour aider Kiev et Isra\u00ebl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Zaloujny en r\u00e9clame 4 fois plus, ainsi que 17 millions de munitions. Qui les poss\u00e8de ? 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