{"id":23915,"date":"2023-10-19T05:02:25","date_gmt":"2023-10-19T05:02:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/13.36.34.64\/?p=23915"},"modified":"2023-10-19T05:02:25","modified_gmt":"2023-10-19T05:02:25","slug":"liquider-le-hamas-soit-mais-pas-a-nimporte-quel-prix-pour-israel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2023\/10\/19\/liquider-le-hamas-soit-mais-pas-a-nimporte-quel-prix-pour-israel\/","title":{"rendered":". Liquider le Hamas, soit, mais pas \u00e0 n\u2019importe quel prix pour Isra\u00ebl"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Aout 2023<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2023\/07\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juillet 2023<\/a> &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887<\/a> Twitter : <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ripostelaique.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/3890448855.webp\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous allons transformer Gaza en \u201c\u00eelots de ruines\u201d, a dit Netanyahou. Plus facile \u00e0 dire qu\u2019\u00e0 faire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isra\u00ebl a men\u00e9 toutes ses guerres depuis 1948 avec le minimum de pertes, la technologie et la sup\u00e9riorit\u00e9 de Tsahal ayant toujours fait la diff\u00e9rence sur le terrain, jusqu\u2019en 2014, lors de l\u2019op\u00e9ration&nbsp;<em>Bordure protectrice<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais l\u2019ennemi de 2023 n\u2019est plus celui de 2014. Entra\u00een\u00e9 et \u00e9quip\u00e9 par l\u2019Iran, fanatis\u00e9 comme jamais, le Hamas est devenu une force de combat redoutable, pr\u00eate \u00e0 affronter Tsahal dans une guerre urbaine, avec tous les pi\u00e8ges et les mauvaises surprises qu\u2019on peut attendre. Le pire des sc\u00e9narios pour les assaillants, avec la menace pouvant venir de tous c\u00f4t\u00e9s, depuis les toits des immeubles jusqu\u2019aux tunnels. Il n\u2019y a pas combat plus stressant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/israel-palestine\/video\/2023\/10\/18\/hamas-israel-pourquoi-envahir-gaza-est-une-operation-a-haut-risque-pour-tsahal_6195216_1667123.html\">https:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/israel-palestine\/video\/2023\/10\/18\/hamas-israel-pourquoi-envahir-gaza-est-une-operation-a-haut-risque-pour-tsahal_6195216_1667123.html<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On dit que le rapport des forces en combat urbain doit \u00eatre de 8 \u00e0 10 attaquants pour 1 d\u00e9fenseur. Tsahal, avec 180 000 soldats et 360 000 r\u00e9servistes rappel\u00e9s, poss\u00e8de les effectifs n\u00e9cessaires, pour affronter les 20 000 ou 40 000 combattants du Hamas. Elle a aussi les \u00e9quipements terrestres et a\u00e9riens en nombre suffisant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais un pays de 9 millions d\u2019habitants en guerre perp\u00e9tuelle, peut-il se permettre de perdre des centaines de soldats ? Peut-il se permettre de mener une guerre longue qui mobilise ses forces et p\u00e9nalise son \u00e9conomie ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pour Scott Ritter, une invasion de Gaza serait d\u00e9vastatrice pour l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSi les Isra\u00e9liens entrent dans Gaza, que feront-ils ? Je vais \u00eatre tr\u00e8s franc maintenant : ils vont mourir. Ils mourront en nombre que les Isra\u00e9liens n\u2019ont jamais vu auparavant. Et l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne le sait. Pourquoi n\u2019y sont-ils pas encore all\u00e9s ? Parce qu\u2019ils savent ce qui va se passer. Le Hamas les attend. Le Hamas est pr\u00eat \u00e0 les accueillir. L\u2019Iran a propos\u00e9 au Hamas : les gars, si vous avez des ennuis, nous viendrons. Et le Hamas a r\u00e9pondu : Chef, je vous comprends. Mais nous sommes pr\u00eats. Nous n\u2019avons pas besoin de votre aide. Nous ne voulons pas d\u2019elle. Le Hamas attire les Isra\u00e9liens dans un pi\u00e8ge mortel \u00e0 Gaza. Et c\u2019est ce qui arrivera \u00e0 l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne lorsqu\u2019elle entrera dans Gaza : elle sera d\u00e9truite.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/boriskarpovblog\/16409\">https:\/\/t.me\/boriskarpovblog\/16409<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il n\u2019a pas tort. Si les bombardements a\u00e9riens \u00e0 raison de 1 000 bombes par jour, font des d\u00e9g\u00e2ts majeurs sur les infrastructures militaires du Hamas, une invasion terrestre serait une entreprise hautement p\u00e9rilleuse, longue et co\u00fbteuse en personnels. On n\u2019avance pas en terrain truff\u00e9 de mines et de pi\u00e8ges comme en rase campagne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je ne suis pas un sp\u00e9cialiste du combat urbain, mais il me semble que pas un seul char ou un seul blind\u00e9 ne devrait r\u00e9sister aux missiles antichars port\u00e9s par des centaines de fantassins du Hamas, d\u00e9bouchant d\u2019un tunnel ou tirant du haut d\u2019un toit. Idem pour les h\u00e9licopt\u00e8res. Et j\u2019imagine que les Iraniens ont largement \u00e9quip\u00e9 le Hamas de ces missiles portables.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je ne doute pas du savoir-faire de Tsahal. Je ne doute pas que cette arm\u00e9e r\u00e9put\u00e9e se soit parfaitement entra\u00een\u00e9e dans le \u201cmini Gaza\u201d, cette reproduction du milieu urbain, avec 500 b\u00e2timents et des tunnels pour enseigner le combat de rue. Je ne doute pas que les robots et les bombes surpuissantes puissent faire des merveilles dans la destruction des tunnels. Je ne doute pas que les drones seront un atout pr\u00e9cieux dans cette guerre. Mais il me semble qu\u2019un si\u00e8ge de Gaza serait une moins mauvaise solution qu\u2019une invasion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00c9vacuation<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;des civils sur l\u2019\u00c9gypte, bombardements cibl\u00e9s et si\u00e8ge de Gaza \u00e9viteraient un bain de sang.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous verrons bien quel choix sera fait par le gouvernement isra\u00e9lien et son \u00e9tat-major.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il est \u00e9vident que le risque d\u2019escalade n\u2019est pas nul, avec le Hezbollah libanais ou l\u2019embrasement de la Cisjordanie qui diviseraient les forces de Tsahal. Sans parler d\u2019un engagement de T\u00e9h\u00e9ran dans le conflit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tout cela doit \u00eatre men\u00e9 dans<strong>&nbsp;le souci de sauver les otages<\/strong>&nbsp;autant que faire se peut. Un pari titanesque, \u00e0 moins de les monnayer contre les 4 500 prisonniers palestiniens d\u00e9tenus par Isra\u00ebl.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et quand les terroristes seront \u00e9limin\u00e9s, que fera Isra\u00ebl ? Car apr\u00e8s la guerre, il faudra bien une strat\u00e9gie de long terme, m\u00eame si un conflit qui s\u2019\u00e9ternise depuis 1948 ne se r\u00e8glera pas en liquidant le Hamas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Une r\u00e9occupation de Gaza comme avant 2005 ? Ce qui ferait 4 millions de musulmans sur 11 millions d\u2019habitants au sein de ce nouvel Isra\u00ebl ? Mauvais choix.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ou un retour \u00e0 la case d\u00e9part, en attendant la prochaine guerre ? Mauvais choix \u00e9galement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il est clair que le Moyen-Orient n\u2019est pas pr\u00e8s de s\u2019apaiser, tant que le droit \u00e0 l\u2019existence d\u2019Isra\u00ebl ne sera pas reconnu de toute la plan\u00e8te, sans aucune exception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jacques Guillemain<\/strong>, Riposte La\u00efque<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/rutubes.free.fr\/RutubeEmule-island.html\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n<!-- AFS Analytics V7- Web Analytics 7.0 -->\n<script type='text\/javascript'>\n(function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i['AfsAnalyticsObject']=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){(i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)})(window,document,'script','\/\/code.afsanalytics.com\/js2\/analytics.js','aa');\naa('create', '00636949','auto');\naa('set', 'autotrack', 'on');\naa('set', 'autotrack.iframe', 'dataset');\naa('send', 'pageview');\n<\/script>\n<!-- End AFS Analytics -->\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 : Oct. 2023 &#8211; Sept 2023 &#8211; Aout 2023 &#8211; Juillet 2023 &#8211; Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100069673161887 Twitter : https:\/\/twitter.com\/OrtfNews Nous allons transformer Gaza en \u201c\u00eelots de ruines\u201d, a dit Netanyahou. 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