{"id":20325,"date":"2022-09-14T17:10:26","date_gmt":"2022-09-14T15:10:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/?p=20325"},"modified":"2022-09-14T17:10:26","modified_gmt":"2022-09-14T15:10:26","slug":"celine-pina-la-montee-de-la-violence-temoigne-du-passage-dune-societe-democratique-a-une-societe-tribale","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2022\/09\/14\/celine-pina-la-montee-de-la-violence-temoigne-du-passage-dune-societe-democratique-a-une-societe-tribale\/","title":{"rendered":"C\u00e9line Pina : \u00ab La mont\u00e9e de la violence t\u00e9moigne du passage d\u2019une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9mocratique \u00e0 une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 tribale \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/www.weboomedia.fr\/RutubeStreaming1.htm\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Articles &nbsp;: <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2022\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept. 2022<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2022\/08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Aout 2022<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2022\/07\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juil. 2022<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2022\/06\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juin. 2022<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ORTF-News-107572991571884\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ORTF-News-107572991571884<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fdesouche.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/Capture-de%CC%81cran-2022-09-14-a%CC%80-15.44.44-740x406.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>FIGAROVOX\/ENTRETIEN<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>\u2013 L\u2019agression d\u2019une octog\u00e9naire \u00e0 Cannes par des individus de 14 et 15 ans a soulev\u00e9 la question de la lev\u00e9e de l\u2019excuse de minorit\u00e9. L\u2019essayiste propose une r\u00e9flexion sur le r\u00f4le de la justice et le risque de d\u00e9sagr\u00e9gation de la nation si celle-ci n\u2019est plus rendue par l\u2019\u00c9tat.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Ancienne \u00e9lue locale, C\u00e9line Pina est journaliste \u00e0&nbsp;<\/em>Causeur<em>, essayiste et militante. Elle est la fondatrice de \u00abViv(r)e la R\u00e9publique\u00bb, elle a \u00e9galement publi\u00e9&nbsp;<\/em>Silence coupable<em>&nbsp;(Kero, 2016) et&nbsp;<\/em>Ces biens essentiels&nbsp;<em>(Bouquins, 2021)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(\u2026)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Les agressions se multiplient et le maire de Cannes affirme que le syst\u00e8me juridique et p\u00e9nal est \u00ab<\/strong><em><strong>obsol\u00e8te<\/strong><\/em><strong>\u00bb face \u00e0 la mont\u00e9e de la violence. Risque-t-on une d\u00e9sagr\u00e9gation acc\u00e9l\u00e9r\u00e9e de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 dans ces conditions&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La mont\u00e9e de la violence en France parle du d\u00e9chirement de notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9 politique et de l\u2019absence d\u2019une identit\u00e9 culturelle partag\u00e9e. Elle parle du passage de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9mocratique \u00e0 la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 tribale. C\u2019est ce que construit l\u2019id\u00e9ologie multiculturaliste quand elle rejette l\u2019id\u00e9al de nation en lui substituant le communautarisme, autrement dit, la cohabitation sur le m\u00eame territoire de communaut\u00e9s li\u00e9es par un signe distinctif racial ou religieux qui fonde une identit\u00e9 ferm\u00e9e. Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s d\u00e9mocratiques, au contraire, construisent leur identit\u00e9 sur un mode d\u00e9lib\u00e9ratif (par l\u2019\u00e9change et la discussion) qui permet d\u2019int\u00e9grer des personnes de tout horizon \u00e0 condition qu\u2019elles partagent des id\u00e9aux, des principes et un projet commun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 tribale ne fait pas de la violence entre les personnes un acte ill\u00e9gitime, elle ne cherche pas \u00e0 justifier ses liens en se r\u00e9f\u00e9rant \u00e0 des valeurs universelles, \u00e0 la qu\u00eate d\u2019une d\u00e9finition partag\u00e9e du bien et du mal. La base de son organisation est ce qui est bon ou mauvais pour la tribu. Celui qui est en dehors n\u2019a droit \u00e0 aucune protection. Il n\u2019y a aucune reconnaissance d\u2019une dignit\u00e9 humaine partag\u00e9e, il y a le clan auquel on appartient ou auquel on a fait all\u00e9geance envers qui on a des devoirs, et les autres qui sont des ennemis potentiels et \u00e0 qui on ne doit rien. Dans ces soci\u00e9t\u00e9s, il y a une culture de la similarit\u00e9 qui impose que l\u2019individualit\u00e9 soit effac\u00e9e. On appartient \u00e0 la tribu avant d\u2019\u00eatre quelqu\u2019un et cette appartenance d\u00e9finit les mani\u00e8res d\u2019\u00eatre et de penser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s d\u00e9mocratiques ne fondent pas leur coh\u00e9sion sur des facteurs ext\u00e9rieurs et ne l\u00e9gitiment pas le pouvoir en r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 un Dieu, \u00e0 une appartenance ethnique ou \u00e0 une loi qui serait naturelle, elles assument l\u2019h\u00e9t\u00e9rog\u00e9n\u00e9it\u00e9 des hommes mais croient en l\u2019universalit\u00e9 de leur raison et de leur capacit\u00e9 de dialogue.<\/p><p>C\u00e9line Pina<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>(\u2026) Dans ce cadre, le droit est au service des hommes et l\u2019\u0153uvre de leur raison, il \u00e9volue et s\u2019adapte en fonction des d\u00e9fis que ceux-ci affrontent et des modifications de leur environnement. Il est au service des hommes et de leur protection. Ce n\u2019est pas une vache sacr\u00e9e devant laquelle on se prosterne sans s\u2019interroger, car il serait l\u2019\u0153uvre de Dieu. C\u2019est un organisme vivant, autant que les hommes qui le constituent et la justice doit garder les yeux ouverts sur les r\u00e9alit\u00e9s de son temps. Ce n\u2019est pas les normes qui sont fixes, mais la fa\u00e7on dont l\u2019homme les \u00e9tablit, la foi dans sa raison et sa capacit\u00e9 de cr\u00e9ation. La justice est donc en perp\u00e9tuelle tension car elle doit s\u2019inscrire dans la dur\u00e9e et accepter d\u2019\u00e9voluer, comme dans la proc\u00e9dure, elle est soumise en tant que concept au contradictoire, mais elle est d\u2019autant plus stable qu\u2019elle respecte l\u2019esprit de la loi. Aujourd\u2019hui, on peut parfois avoir l\u2019impression qu\u2019elle s\u2019accroche \u00e0 la lettre de la loi, car elle en a perdu l\u2019esprit. Cela expliquerait qu\u2019elle soit si critiqu\u00e9e et inspire si peu confiance (68% des Fran\u00e7ais la jugent trop laxiste selon un sondage CSA de 2021, 69% la disent opaque car ils ne comprennent pas la logique des condamnations, 53% d\u00e9clarent ne pas avoir confiance en elle).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La violence physique est une transgression majeure. Ainsi, quand les violences contre les personnes explosent, cela t\u00e9moigne d\u2019une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qui perd son \u00e9quilibre et d\u2019une justice qui ne joue pas son r\u00f4le. Quand cette violence para\u00eet peu sanctionn\u00e9e ou sanctionn\u00e9e&nbsp;<em>a minima<\/em>, cela t\u00e9moigne d\u2019une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qui est en train de perdre le sens du commun et qui ne sait plus au nom de quoi ou pourquoi elle est l\u00e9gitime \u00e0 agir. Quand on ne sait plus sanctionner, c\u2019est que l\u2019on ne sait plus au nom de quoi il est l\u00e9gitime de punir. Un syst\u00e8me juridique et p\u00e9nal qui perd pied face \u00e0 la mont\u00e9e de la violence t\u00e9moigne d\u2019une d\u00e9sagr\u00e9gation de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 l\u2019\u0153uvre et m\u00eame avanc\u00e9e. Par exemple, face \u00e0 la question de la peine d\u2019emprisonnement, le fait que nous \u00e9voquions l\u2019id\u00e9e qu\u2019elle ne garantit pas la r\u00e9demption du condamn\u00e9 montre que nous n\u2019avons pas compris le premier r\u00f4le de l\u2019emprisonnement: \u00f4ter du corps social un \u00e9l\u00e9ment toxique, destructeur. Que la personne puisse changer ou s\u2019am\u00e9liorer n\u2019est pas le probl\u00e8me principal, le socle de la d\u00e9cision est la protection du collectif. Encore faut-il que celui-ci se connaisse et se reconnaisse. Quand la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 se d\u00e9sagr\u00e8ge, elle commence par perdre le commun, donc le fondement de ce qui fait la l\u00e9gitimit\u00e9 de ses lois et celle de ses jugements. Elle devient incapable de punir, donc de tracer la fronti\u00e8re entre ce qui est l\u00e9gitime et ill\u00e9gitime.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lefigaro.fr\/vox\/societe\/celine-pina-la-montee-de-la-violence-temoigne-du-passage-d-une-societe-democratique-a-une-societe-tribale-20220912\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Le Figaro<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/www.weboomedia.fr\/RutubeStreaming1.htm\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n<!--\nADDFREESTATS.COM AUTOCODE V4.0 -->\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n<!--\nvar AFS_Account=\"00636949\";\nvar AFS_Tracker=\"auto\";\nvar AFS_Server=\"www6\";\nvar AFS_Page=\"DetectName\";\nvar AFS_Url=\"DetectUrl\";\n\/\/ -->\n<\/script>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/www6.addfreestats.com\/cgi-bin\/afstrack.cgi?usr=00636949\">\n<\/script>\n<noscript>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.addfreestats.com\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www6.addfreestats.com\/cgi-bin\/connect.cgi?usr=00636949Pauto\" border=\"0\" alt=\"AddFreeStats.com Free Web Stats!\">Web Stats<\/a>\n<\/noscript>\n\n<a href=\"http:\/\/djmusic.fr\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/djmusicparis.free.fr\/images\/Djmuisc_Jamendo.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"AddFreeStats.com Free Web Stats!\"> Ecoutez DJMusic.fr<\/a>\n\n<!-- ENDADDFREESTATS.COM AUTOCODE V4.0  \u2192-->\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles &nbsp;: Sept. 2022 &#8211; Aout 2022 &#8211; Juil. 2022 &#8211; Juin. 2022 Facebook\u00a0:\u00a0https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ORTF-News-107572991571884 FIGAROVOX\/ENTRETIEN&nbsp;\u2013 L\u2019agression d\u2019une octog\u00e9naire \u00e0 Cannes par des individus de 14 et 15 ans a soulev\u00e9 la question de la lev\u00e9e de l\u2019excuse de minorit\u00e9. 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