{"id":13776,"date":"2021-11-04T05:45:07","date_gmt":"2021-11-04T04:45:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/?p=13776"},"modified":"2021-11-04T05:45:07","modified_gmt":"2021-11-04T04:45:07","slug":"surveiller-et-punir-le-controle-social-a-lheure-covidienne-et-post-covidienne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/webtube.fr\/index.php\/2021\/11\/04\/surveiller-et-punir-le-controle-social-a-lheure-covidienne-et-post-covidienne\/","title":{"rendered":"Surveiller et punir. Le contr\u00f4le social \u00e0 l\u2019heure covidienne et post-covidienne"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/www.weboomedia.fr\/RutubeStreaming1.htm\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Articles\u00a0: <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/11\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nov. 2021 &#8211;<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/10\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Oct. 2021<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/09\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sept 2021<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Aout 2021 &#8211;<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/07\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Juil.2021 &#8211;<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/rutube.fr\/2021\/06\/\">Juin 2021<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.revue-elements.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/surveillanceV2.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On n\u2019a jamais autant parl\u00e9 de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de surveillance que depuis que le gouvernement a instaur\u00e9 le \u00ab pass sanitaire \u00bb. Or, le coronavirus n\u2019aura jou\u00e9 dans cette affaire qu\u2019un r\u00f4le d\u2019acc\u00e9l\u00e9rateur. La surveillance est inscrite dans le projet lib\u00e9ral et le capitalisme mondialis\u00e9. Dans un livre bref et percutant en diable, \u00ab\u00a0La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de surveillance, stade ultime du lib\u00e9ralisme\u00a0\u00bb (La Nouvelle Librairie), Guillaume Travers en dresse la g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00c9L\u00c9MENTS&nbsp;: Qu\u2019est-ce qui vous fait dire \u2013 sous-titre de votre livre \u2013 que la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de surveillance est le \u00ab&nbsp;stade ultime du lib\u00e9ralisme&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>GUILLAUME TRAVERS.<\/strong>&nbsp;Mon but dans cet ouvrage est de mettre en lumi\u00e8re un impens\u00e9 du lib\u00e9ralisme. Le lib\u00e9ralisme ambitionne d\u2019\u00e9manciper l\u2019individu des contraintes collectives. Mais il serait illusoire de croire qu\u2019il marque la fin de toute forme de contr\u00f4le social. En v\u00e9rit\u00e9, il co\u00efncide avec la transformation d\u2019un type de contr\u00f4le social en un autre. Dans le monde pr\u00e9moderne, le contr\u00f4le social est principalement informel&nbsp;: chacun respecte ses engagements, ou le domaine d\u2019autrui, parce qu\u2019il existe des relations de confiance personnelles, une \u00e9thique faisant appel \u00e0 l\u2019honneur, \u00e0 la r\u00e9putation de toute une lign\u00e9e ou une communaut\u00e9, etc. Bref, c\u2019est l\u2019insertion dans une communaut\u00e9 qui est garante de l\u2019ordre social. Face \u00e0 cela, le lib\u00e9ralisme est un processus de d\u00e9cloisonnement de l\u2019individu, qui entend s\u2019\u00e9manciper de toute attache communautaire. Dans un tel monde d\u2019individus, la seule \u00ab&nbsp;libert\u00e9 individuelle&nbsp;\u00bb ne suffit pas \u00e0 maintenir un ordre social stable, \u00e0 garantir le respect de la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 ou des contrats&nbsp;: il requiert en parall\u00e8le le d\u00e9veloppement d\u2019une vaste superstructure juridique impersonnelle. On rentre dans le monde des contrats \u00e9crits, des juristes, des notes de bas de page, des interm\u00e9diaires divers, etc. Un monde o\u00f9 ce n\u2019est plus la relation personnelle qui est garante de stabilit\u00e9 et de confiance, mais la conformit\u00e9 \u00e0 un ordre abstrait. Cette superstructure de contr\u00f4le est la premi\u00e8re \u00e9tape de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de surveillance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00c9L\u00c9MENTS&nbsp;: Qu\u2019est-ce qui distingue ce que vous appelez la \u00ab&nbsp;libert\u00e9 des lib\u00e9raux&nbsp;\u00bb de la conception classique de la libert\u00e9&nbsp;? Et pourquoi la libert\u00e9 en soi semble-t-elle \u00eatre la propri\u00e9t\u00e9, pour ne pas dire le monopole, des seuls lib\u00e9raux&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>GUILLAUME TRAVERS.<\/strong>&nbsp;Le terme de \u00ab&nbsp;lib\u00e9ralisme&nbsp;\u00bb est source d\u2019\u00e9norm\u00e9ment de confusions, car il sugg\u00e8re que les lib\u00e9raux d\u00e9fendraient la \u00ab&nbsp;libert\u00e9&nbsp;\u00bb quand les anti-lib\u00e9raux y seraient oppos\u00e9s. Une telle vision est intellectuellement intenable&nbsp;: le lib\u00e9ralisme est un produit de l\u2019\u00e9poque moderne (disons, pour simplifier, du XVIII<sup>e<\/sup>&nbsp;si\u00e8cle) quand le concept de libert\u00e9 existe et est discut\u00e9 depuis l\u2019Antiquit\u00e9. Il faut donc distinguer, ce que je fais dans l\u2019ouvrage, une conception lib\u00e9rale de la libert\u00e9, qui s\u2019oppose \u00e0 une conception classique de la libert\u00e9. Classiquement, les libert\u00e9s sont toujours le fruit d\u2019une appartenance politique ou communautaire&nbsp;: \u00e0 Ath\u00e8nes, je suis libre parce que je suis ath\u00e9nien. Ces libert\u00e9s sont toujours concr\u00e8tes, territorialis\u00e9es, et ont pour contrepartie des devoirs. La libert\u00e9 proclam\u00e9e par les lib\u00e9raux est au contraire purement individuelle, et donc d\u00e9tach\u00e9e de toute communaut\u00e9. \u00c0 ce titre, elle est abstraite, universelle, identique pour tous les hommes, et sans devoirs (car les hommes en jouissent pr\u00e9alablement \u00e0 toute insertion dans le monde social). Cette libert\u00e9 peut appara\u00eetre comme infiniment plus \u00e9tendue. C\u2019est peut-\u00eatre vrai dans l\u2019abstrait, mais je soutiens que ce n\u2019est pas vrai concr\u00e8tement \u2013 pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment parce que ces libert\u00e9s sont purement abstraites. Ainsi, on peut proclamer le droit \u00e0 la vie, mais cela n\u2019emp\u00eache pas les massacres. De mani\u00e8re plus g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, et pour les raisons expliqu\u00e9es plus haut, la mont\u00e9e du lib\u00e9ralisme a \u00e9t\u00e9 concomitante avec l\u2019essor des \u00c9tats centralis\u00e9s et des tr\u00e8s grandes entreprises qui, les uns comme les autres, ont de plus en plus corset\u00e9 la vie humaine dans des normes juridiques, des processus abstraits et standardis\u00e9s, des normes, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00c9L\u00c9MENTS&nbsp;: On associe la surveillance \u00e0 Orwell,&nbsp;<em>1984<\/em>, Big Brother, aux soci\u00e9t\u00e9s totalitaires. Or, les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s post-totalitaires ont mis au point des r\u00e9gimes de surveillance d\u2019une autre nature. Qu\u2019est-ce qui change des premiers aux seconds en mati\u00e8re de contr\u00f4le social et de surveillance&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>GUILLAUME TRAVERS.<\/strong>&nbsp;Avant de souligner les diff\u00e9rences, il me semble utile de pr\u00e9ciser ce que ces deux types de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 ont en commun, \u00e0 savoir leur vision de l\u2019homme, leur anthropologie. D\u2019un point de vue lib\u00e9ral, l\u2019homme est un \u00eatre d\u00e9pouill\u00e9 de toute appartenance n\u00e9cessaire, de tout ancrage communautaire, de tout enracinement. Ainsi priv\u00e9 de tout ce qui le particularise, il n\u2019est&nbsp;<em>in fine<\/em>&nbsp;plus qu\u2019un \u00eatre indiff\u00e9renci\u00e9 parmi des milliards d\u2019autres. On voit o\u00f9 cela m\u00e8ne subrepticement&nbsp;: \u00e0 la limite, il n\u2019est plus qu\u2019un atome indistinct, un chiffre, un code-barres ou un QR code. Cette vision de l\u2019homme que rien ne particularise est aussi celle des r\u00e9gimes totalitaires. Du point de vue du gouvernement chinois actuel, par exemple, chaque individu n\u2019est plus qu\u2019un identifiant num\u00e9rique, dont le \u00ab&nbsp;score&nbsp;\u00bb (cr\u00e9dit social) monte ou descend chaque jour en fonction des codes qu\u2019il scanne dans un endroit ou l\u2019autre, des lieux o\u00f9 il est identifi\u00e9 par reconnaissance faciale, etc. Relativement \u00e0 ces similarit\u00e9s, les diff\u00e9rences sont de fa\u00e7ade, et tiennent surtout dans les discours que ces soci\u00e9t\u00e9s tiennent sur elles-m\u00eames. Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s \u00ab&nbsp;totalitaires&nbsp;\u00bb assument de broyer l\u2019homme au profit de la totalit\u00e9 abstraite. Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s lib\u00e9rales le broient par le d\u00e9racinement et la dislocation des ancrages communautaires. Leur mod\u00e8le est davantage&nbsp;<em>Le meilleur des mondes<\/em>&nbsp;que&nbsp;<em>1984<\/em>. Mais les cons\u00e9quences sont presque identiques et, sur le temps long, la convergence des deux mod\u00e8les sera de plus en plus flagrante.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00c9L\u00c9MENTS\u00a0: Ce serait donc par un abus de langage qu\u2019on parle de de soci\u00e9t\u00e9s lib\u00e9rales (alors qu\u2019elles sont de plus en plus liberticides) et de soci\u00e9t\u00e9s ouvertes (alors qu\u2019elles sont de plus en plus ferm\u00e9es)\u00a0?GUILLAUME TRAVERS.<\/strong>\u00a0En un sens, oui. S\u2019agissant du terme de \u00ab\u00a0lib\u00e9ralisme\u00a0\u00bb, nous l\u2019avons dit\u00a0: cette philosophie proclame des libert\u00e9s abstraites, qui ne sont souvent que de vains mots, sans port\u00e9e concr\u00e8te. Concernant le terme de \u00ab\u00a0soci\u00e9t\u00e9 ouverte\u00a0\u00bb, les choses sont un peu diff\u00e9rentes. Le lib\u00e9ralisme, en brisant les appartenances communautaires, a peu \u00e0 peu brouill\u00e9 une distinction qui structurait toutes les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s traditionnelles\u00a0: celle du proche et du lointain. Ainsi, dans la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 m\u00e9di\u00e9vale par exemple, on ne se comportait pas de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re avec un voisin, ou un membre du m\u00eame village ou de la m\u00eame corporation, qu\u2019avec ceux qui y \u00e9taient \u00e9trangers. En brouillant les domaines \u00ab\u00a0proches\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0lointains\u00a0\u00bb, le lib\u00e9ralisme a effectivement \u00ab\u00a0ouvert\u00a0\u00bb des horizons nouveaux \u00e0 l\u2019individu, notamment des horizons g\u00e9ographiques\u00a0: il est plus facile pour l\u2019individu d\u2019\u00eatre migrant ou touriste, comme il est plus ais\u00e9 pour l\u2019entrepreneur de d\u00e9localiser sa production \u00e0 l\u2019autre bout du monde. En ce sens la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 est plus \u00ab\u00a0ouverte\u00a0\u00bb. Mais cette ouverture a eu pour contrepartie une prolif\u00e9ration des contr\u00f4les formels, des superstructures juridiques, de la standardisation et de l\u2019uniformisation, etc.\u00a0<em>In fine<\/em>, le monde sera peut-\u00eatre compl\u00e9tement ouvert, mais sous le contr\u00f4le d\u2019un gouvernement mondial extr\u00eamement proc\u00e9durier. La diversit\u00e9 du monde, et les mille mani\u00e8res propres aux hommes de faire l\u2019exp\u00e9rience concr\u00e8te de la libert\u00e9 auront disparues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Merci \u00e0 la revue <a href=\"https:\/\/www.revue-elements.com\/surveiller-et-punir-le-controle-social-a-lheure-covidienne-et-post-covidienne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elements<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"200\" src=\"http:\/\/www.weboomedia.fr\/RutubeStreaming1.htm\" frameborder=\"N\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n<!-- ADDFREESTATS.COM AUTOCODE V4.0 -->\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n<!--\nvar AFS_Account=\"00636949\";\nvar AFS_Tracker=\"auto\";\nvar AFS_Server=\"www6\";\nvar AFS_Page=\"DetectName\";\nvar AFS_Url=\"DetectUrl\";\n\/\/ -->\n<\/script>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/www6.addfreestats.com\/cgi-bin\/afstrack.cgi?usr=00636949\">\n<\/script>\n<noscript>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.addfreestats.com\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www6.addfreestats.com\/cgi-bin\/connect.cgi?usr=00636949Pauto\" border=\"0\" alt=\"AddFreeStats.com Free Web Stats!\">Web Stats<\/a>\n<\/noscript>\n\n<!-- ENDADDFREESTATS.COM AUTOCODE V4.0  \u2192\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Articles\u00a0: Nov. 2021 &#8211; Oct. 2021 &#8211; Sept 2021 &#8211; Aout 2021 &#8211; Juil.2021 &#8211; Juin 2021 On n\u2019a jamais autant parl\u00e9 de soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de surveillance que depuis que le gouvernement a instaur\u00e9 le \u00ab pass sanitaire \u00bb. 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